> Are they unmodified or have you been hacking them?
>
> Don't switch threads if at all possible. The background goes missing.
> Change subject lines if you're off on a tangent.
>
> Where have you got kde & gnome installed? /opt? What udev version?
> It sounds like a permission preoblem - check the root directory
> subdirs.They should be 0755 mainly.

Are they unmodified or have you been hacking them?
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ah... nope, they are not hacked, they are the ones from LFS 6.1

Where have you got kde & gnome installed? /opt?
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yeah, in /opt/gnome-2.12 and /opt/kde-3.4.2

What udev version?
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udev version = 070

It sounds like a permission preoblem - check the root directory
subdirs.They should be 0755 mainly ...
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Except root directory, they all are 0755

Again thanks for you support.
By the way i add myself to the audio group and it works, thanx, but
still the konsole and gnome-term issue unless i chmod all the dev tree
i can't use konsole or gnome-term, konsole gives me... "WARNING: Can't
open a pseudo teletype"

see ya
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