> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Armin K.
> Sent: 04/28/14 11:38 PM
> To: BLFS Support List
> Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Converting to systemd
> 
> On 29.4.2014 0:33, Ken Moffat wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 06:00:54PM -0400, Cliff McDiarmid wrote:
> >>
> >> The hint I was refering to is the one written by Chris Wagner 
> >> 2012-10-03(see attach). I followed it for converting an earlier LFS, 
> >> wondered whether I could use it for 7.5, using more recent packages?
> >>
> >
> > I see a number of alternatives, but for all of them I recomment
> > that you backup your working 7.5 first, and ensure you have a way of
> > restoring individual items from the backup if things are so broken
> > that systemd fails to boot.
> >
> > 1. Try the hint - if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces.
> >
> > 2. Look at what Armin was doing when he last updated his notes.
> > ISTR that he builds a lot of extra things in LFS, so his method
> > might not suit you. I also recall that he took particular care over
> > his systemd rebuild for gudev. In a recent LFS-svn version initially
> > running with sysvinit I did not have any problems here (only changed
> > to systemd once I had built firefox, so that I had a graphical
> > browser to search for answers - links or lynx are often impractical
> > if google gives a link to some list archives.
> >
> > 3. Look at LFS-svn. Mine is still using the latest gcc-4.8 (I built
> > as at 2014-04-22 after deciding that I needed to separate any
> > gcc-4.9 issues, together with any issues for newer versions of e.g.
> > evince and gucharmap (I last built 3.10) into one or more later
> > builds) - if you are tempted to use gcc-4.9 please look at LFS ticket
> > #3552 and the comments on both the LFS-dev and LFS-book lists : at
> > the moment, it looks as if both ffmpeg and qt4 have problems. At
> > least the list archives are now back online ;-)
> >
> > 4. Since you already have LFS-7.5, I suppose that you could add the
> > extra packages which are now in LFS-svn, change the kernel config to
> > include what is needed (you have probably done that already, except
> > for the fhandle syscalls), and use everything in the current
> > chapters 7 and 8 (and the alterations to how both sysvinit and
> > systemd are installed without conflicting with each other) including
> > current LFS bootscripts. Again, you need a backup before you start,
> > and you will definitely be on your own if any problems arise.
> >
> > ĸen
> >
> 
> Notes are based on top of LFS systemd 7.5 and BLFS 7.5-rc1 (which is 
> more or less similar to 7.5). You're good to go if you are using these. 
> Converting sysvinit-based system to systemd-based one could be done if 
> you install LFS packages you are missing, follow the whatever tutorial 
> you like for removing sysvinit specific stuff (haven't looked at the 
> note, maybe it does explain it) and install systemd and dbus using lfs 
> systemd instructions.

Okay many thanks for the advice.  And thanks to you all for your input.

Cliff
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