> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 2:25 AM > From: "Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης via blfs-support" > <blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> > To: "BLFS Support List" <blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> > Cc: "Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης" <haris...@protonmail.com> > Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Chromium should be in the book > > Thank you for all replies. > As I said I am not a developer, so I can not help, also I can not understand > which are the difficulties making a Chromium or Ungoogled Chromium work for > LFS, while it works in all other distros with often versions updates. > Considering that it is the most used browser, it would be good if a solution > would be found. > I will go on with WebkitGTK and suckless surf. > Thanks again for replies and for LFS! > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:18 AM, DJ Lucas via blfs-support > <blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote: > > > On 3/10/2020 7:16 AM, Christopher Gregory via blfs-support wrote: > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 4:47 PM > > > > From: "Ken Moffat via blfs-support" > > > > blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org > > > > To: "BLFS Support List" blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org > > > > Cc: "Ken Moffat" zarniwh...@ntlworld.com > > > > Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Chromium should be in the book > > > > On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 09:30:58PM -0500, William Harrington via > > > > blfs-support wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 2020-03-08 01:22, Christopher Gregory via blfs-support wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hadn't thought it necessary to reply to this thread until now, so > > > > please allwo me to make one comment on the original post before > > > > replying to William's post. > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2020 at 7:16 PM > > > > > > From: "Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης via blfs-support" > > > > > > blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org > > > > > > To: blfs-support blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org > > > > > > Cc: "Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης" haris...@protonmail.com > > > > > > Subject: [blfs-support] Chromium should be in the book > > > > > > After 8.1 Chromium isn't included in the books. It is one of the > > > > > > most > > > > > > used browsers (I use ungoogled chromium). Maybe it should be added > > > > > > again? In latest Chromium included at least 1 dependency gives 404, > > > > > > so > > > > > > even that may not be possible to be installed. > > > > > > > > Χάρης, I've only just realised that you might be trying to build > > > > whichever old version was referenced in the 8.1 book - using such an > > > > old version in the current "Wild West" internet is a recipe for > > > > pain. > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > That just goes to show that you did not read the tickets about > > > > > > chromium. I spent a considerable amount of time on many different > > > > > > versions of chromium, and it is a real dog to try to get to work. > > > > > > Bruce wanted it out of the book, and from a shear maintenance point > > > > > > of > > > > > > view, ie the time needed to actually find even their so called > > > > > > stable > > > > > > build that would actually build is a nightmare. Not to mention the > > > > > > number of vulnerabilities. It really is better to be left out of the > > > > > > book, unless someone is prepared to make sure that all of the > > > > > > vulnerabilities are patched and that a regular up to date build can > > > > > > be > > > > > > achieved. It would require someone to only work on chromium, are you > > > > > > offering YOUR time to do that? > > > > > > Christopher. > > > > > > It can be a Hint or have a separate book like CrLFS! Hah! > > > > > > With chromium, a hint will become outdated within weeks. The only > > > > > > way to keep up to date with whichever version is currently labelled > > > > > > as stable is to look at what distros are doing. > > > > > > > > Maybe https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium might be > > > > slightly less painful, I have no idea. > > > > I don't agree that chrome/chromium have more vulnerabilities, they > > > > just have more researchers and they try to put the critical fixes > > > > out quickly rather than waiting for their next scheduled release > > > > (firefox - mostly, and qtwebengine always). But coupled with the > > > > general churn it becomes impossible. As people can see from the > > > > ticket, it is certainly beyond my skills. > > > > > > > > ĸen > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > #define THE_TRUTH_AND_THATS_CUTTIN_ME_OWN_THROAT true > > > > Al Viro, complaining about a 'TRUE' macro in staging > > > > -- > > > > http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support > > > > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html > > > > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > > > > > > Hello, > > > The shear time involved with Chromium is not worth it. You can not even > > > guarantee that when a point release comes out, even if you have already > > > spent the hours of abortive builds, and managed to get a version to > > > successfully build and install and work, that you would get it to build. > > > > To echo Christopher and Ken's sentiments, I can tell you that with each > > point update, it usually took me a couple of nights to get it working, > > best guess is around 6 hours of actual screen time to get it ready for > > the book (this does not include the CPU cycles, I guess around 20 > > hours). DO NOT USE OLD VERSIONS. I personally think your time would be > > better spent using the Debian build of Chrome if you need it for work or > > something. I even had instructions to use cpio to extract the deb for > > the Widevine CDM adapter at one time. > > > > > From my recollection, the only reason that it was in the book in the > > > first place was because mozilla/firefox did not include the widevine > > > plugin that was necessary for the drm content to be played, and html5. > > > That is no longer the case. > > > > That's not the only reason, I liked the UI better than Firefox. At the > > time it went in, I also found it easier to maintain the CA Certs, but I > > simply don' t have the time to maintain it (or anything else for that > > matter). If I do take the time to do so later in the cycle, I'll post > > build instructions here, but I certainly wouldn't hold your breath. If > > you really need a build recipe, check out the PKGBUILD at Arch, but be > > forewarned that it will take a ton of time to get it right - it will not > > build on BLFS without significant modification. > > > > --DJ > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support > > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html > > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > > > -- > http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html > Unsubscribe: See the above information page >
Hello, Please do not top post as this destroys the threads. We have tried to advise you of the difficulties with regards to the building process. The easiest way I can say this is, when you download a source tar ball from a stable release and extract it, you expect that it will compile. This is not the case with chromium. The difference between lfs/blfs and the distros is that they have a large team of developers working on their teams, and often one maintainer can spend the considerable amount of time needed to get it to work. With maybe 4 or 5 people that lfs/blfs have in editing the book, it is not fair to expect that the small amount of spare time they are donating, be spent on one single problematic package when that time could be spent perhaps updating half the current book. The book needs packages that can almost always be consistently updated with the least amount of hassle. Regards, Christopher. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
