On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 22:23:41 +0100
Teresa Williams via blfs-support
<blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote:

> > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 at 9:29 AM
> > From: "Scott Andrews via blfs-support"
> > <blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> To:
> > blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Cc: "Scott Andrews"
> > <scott.andr...@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [blfs-support] How to
> > make an iso of BLFS
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 14:03:51 -0600
> > Bruce Dubbs via blfs-support
> > <blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote:
> >  
> > > On 12/8/20 1:22 PM, Scott Andrews via blfs-support wrote:  
> > > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 12:33:48 -0600
> > > > Bruce Dubbs via blfs-support
> > > > <blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > >> On 12/8/20 12:00 PM, Scott Andrews via blfs-support wrote:
> > > >>  
> > > >>> The only sane way ( successful way ) to build LFS for it to be
> > > >>> installed onto other machine is to....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 1.    Use a package manager
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2.    Build ALL the packages in a clean chroot
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 3.    Create a base system of packages and all the add on
> > > >>>       packages needed. You have to merge LFS and BLFS
> > > >>> together. You will have issues with controlling dependencies
> > > >>> between the various packages.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 4.    Build an installation script to install the binary
> > > >>> packages from the package manager (repository). Formatting a
> > > >>> drive and installation of binaries going to the formatted
> > > >>> drive included in this step.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 5.    Fix up the configuration files for each machine.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 6.    Transfer drive to the target machine.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 7.    A way to update the target machine(s).  
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Not true.  You can tar up the LFS system and untar it on an
> > > >> empty partition on the target machine.  One caveat is if the
> > > >> target machine is less capable than the build system, you need
> > > >> to build gmp generically.  
> > > >  
> > > >>
> > > >> Other minor things are to change the host name, ip address,
> > > >> fstab, grub.cfg, and maybe unprivileged user(s).  Also any
> > > >> kernel modules and (potentially) firmware for the target
> > > >> system must be available.
> > > >>
> > > >>     -- Bruce  
> > > >
> > > > That is a straw man argument and you know it.  
> > >
> > > It is not.  I've done it.  I didn't say your way doesn't work.
> > > It's just that using tar does not require the overhead of a
> > > package manager. I does require you to know what you are doing.
> > >
> > >    -- Bruce
> > >  
> >
> > It is NOT an answer that the OP is looking for, nor is it a process
> > the OP could be successful with.
> >
> > How does grub get installed correctly?
> >
> > If the PARTID or UUID is different does it work?
> >
> > UEFI, BIOS?  something else?
> >
> > Grub config setup to work?
> >
> > Again the OP is looking for an iso ( or something like that ) that
> > he can install and have it boot.  Your answer is woefully incorrect.
> >
> > My method works as described, batteries are included, yours ?????
> >
> > Again straw man  
> 
> Scott, you need to know and accept that:
> 
>  - your project, while fun, challenging and (I assume) functional, is
> not LFS. It is based on LFS. (B)LFS is a core set of instructions
> which are carefully designed and exhaustively tested to achieve the
> project's stated objectives:
> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/index.html

Functional LOL it only has been working for over 5 years as servers for
six different installations/locations.  I guess you would say that it
doesn't work.

BTW http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/index.html little to none of
that is true, only an opinion of the editors.

The correct answer to the OP is it can not be done.

> 
>  - other people have extended LFS is many ways. There are others who
> have used RPM. There are other package managers (I use a manager, but
> not RPM).  People use other hardware - RaspPi springs to mind.
> Remember: Your Distro, Your Rues.

I do use the raspberry pi hardware, in fact my github repo is full of
information about building LFS on the raspberry pi platform.

> 
>  - LFS is a basis which can be used, extended, altered at will. There
> have been published distributions based on BLFS - remember Yoper?

Nope

> 
>   - there is no way that the LFS community is going to accept your
> versions of all these things as the only one, the right one, the best
> one just because you make most noise about it.

Ok so LFS will not accept my corrections when the book is incorrect, I
got that, that is why I don't bother with sending in corrections any
more.  I already knew that....but I digress......

> 
> Please stop your badgering of the editors and users. Why not start
> your own project if it is that important to you.

Who's badgering the editors?  Just because you don't like my answer
doesn't mean you are correct.

> 
> Teresa

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