Thank you Alex for keeping them on their toes.
David Ferrin
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Blind-Computing Digest, Vol 103, Issue 3


>A friendly reminder from your moderators. If people reply to the list
> digest, can they please change the subject line to reflect what they're
> writing about?
> Cheers.
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis
> Sent: 12 May 2008 00:12
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Blind-Computing Digest, Vol 103, Issue 3
>
> Yes listers; I've heard e xactly the same thing.  I do however, have a
> friend offered to come in one day and update me with version 8 or whatever
> the latest avg version we get is so I look forward to the happy day, that 
> is
>
> unless this is an update that's more trouble than it's worth.  Hopefully
> it's no problem at all.
>
>
>
> till later listers
>
>
> Dennis Arms.
>
>
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> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:40 AM
> Subject: Blind-Computing Digest, Vol 103, Issue 3
>
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>>   1. Avast query (David)
>>   2. So Confused About AVG? (Victor Gouveia)
>>   3. Re: So Confused About AVG? (Job Hunter)
>>   4. Re: So Confused About AVG? (David Ferrin)
>>   5. Re: So Confused About AVG? (Carlene Knight)
>>   6. Re: So Confused About AVG? (Nimer)
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 17:07:15 +0100
>> From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Avast query
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> I have now used Avast a few times and it seems to work ok.  Well, what I
>> mean is, I can hear it working its way through the computer and making 
>> all
>
>> the usual noises.
>>
>> When I look in the pulldown menus I see that Status is unavailable, last
>> scan report is unavailable and, I think, view report is also unavailable.
>> Am I doing anything wrong or what?  As far as I can tell I've adopted all
>> the recommended changes I've seen on this list.
>>
>> David
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:13:00 -0400
>> From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] So Confused About AVG?
>> To: "blind Computing" <[email protected]>
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Before anyone goes off on me for having the gall to doubt Google, I am
>> very confused about something.
>>
>> I've heard all the chatter about 7.5 not being supported as of May 31
>> and/or June 1 2008, however, does anyone else find it disconcerting that
>> there is not a single mention of this fact on AVG's website?
>>
>> I just spent the better part of the last 4 hours looking for any mention
>> of Grissoft ceasing support for version 7.5, and managed to turn up zip.
>>
>> I searched through the forums, the press releases, news, and everything 
>> on
>
>> their site makes no mention of 7.5 ceasing support on this or any other
>> date in question.
>>
>> I am so confused, and, quite frankly, frustrated at the possibility that
>> this may be just a rumour, and we've fallen pray to this.
>>
>> I understand that various users have gotten the message when downloading
>> the newest update from the update manager within AVG, but how many have
>> actually gotten this message, and was there a link within the notice that
>> allowed you to get more information?
>>
>> If so, did anyone click on this link to get the more information, or did
>> they just take the notice as gospel?
>>
>> Like I said, you would think that major news of this would be everywhere
>> on the site, especially if the company wants to keep itself out of court
>> for any possible lawsuits that may come about for not notifying the 
>> public
>
>> of this fact.
>>
>> Like I said, is it me, or what?
>>
>> I know this whole thread has been talked about to death, however, I've
>> seen no concrete proof from Grissoft, and to date, everyone is talking
>> about what other anti-virus to use, instead of getting the facts 
>> straight.
>>
>> I have two computers that I have to get out of my office, but I'm not
>> going to go through the trouble of uninstalling AVG 7.5 if I don't really
>> have to.
>>
>> So, can anyone, anyone at all, shed some light on this topic?
>>
>>
>> Victor
>> Co-moderator
>> Blind Movie Buffs List
>> Guidedogs List
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 13:01:00 -0400
>> From: "Job Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] So Confused About AVG?
>> To: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> <[email protected]>
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Yes, I got the message on my computer screen.  There were two buttons: 
>> one
>> button for upgrade now and one button for upgrade later.  I choose the
>> upgrade later button.
>> I have just completed the installation of Avast Free Home and so far so
>> good.
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "blind Computing" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:13 PM
>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] So Confused About AVG?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> Before anyone goes off on me for having the gall to doubt Google, I am
>>> very confused about something.
>>>
>>> I've heard all the chatter about 7.5 not being supported as of May 31
>>> and/or June 1 2008, however, does anyone else find it disconcerting that
>>> there is not a single mention of this fact on AVG's website?
>>>
>>> I just spent the better part of the last 4 hours looking for any mention
>>> of Grissoft ceasing support for version 7.5, and managed to turn up zip.
>>>
>>> I searched through the forums, the press releases, news, and everything
>>> on
>>> their site makes no mention of 7.5 ceasing support on this or any other
>>> date in question.
>>>
>>> I am so confused, and, quite frankly, frustrated at the possibility that
>>> this may be just a rumour, and we've fallen pray to this.
>>>
>>> I understand that various users have gotten the message when downloading
>>> the newest update from the update manager within AVG, but how many have
>>> actually gotten this message, and was there a link within the notice 
>>> that
>>> allowed you to get more information?
>>>
>>> If so, did anyone click on this link to get the more information, or did
>>> they just take the notice as gospel?
>>>
>>> Like I said, you would think that major news of this would be everywhere
>>> on the site, especially if the company wants to keep itself out of court
>>> for any possible lawsuits that may come about for not notifying the
>>> public
>>> of this fact.
>>>
>>> Like I said, is it me, or what?
>>>
>>> I know this whole thread has been talked about to death, however, I've
>>> seen no concrete proof from Grissoft, and to date, everyone is talking
>>> about what other anti-virus to use, instead of getting the facts
>>> straight.
>>>
>>> I have two computers that I have to get out of my office, but I'm not
>>> going to go through the trouble of uninstalling AVG 7.5 if I don't 
>>> really
>>> have to.
>>>
>>> So, can anyone, anyone at all, shed some light on this topic?
>>>
>>>
>>> Victor
>>> Co-moderator
>>> Blind Movie Buffs List
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>>> http://www.jaws-users.com
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 13:15:38 -0400
>> From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] So Confused About AVG?
>> To: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> <[email protected]>
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> You have got such a wonderful point that I must applaud this post. I
>> personally can not verify this fact myself either.
>> David Ferrin
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "blind Computing" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:13 PM
>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] So Confused About AVG?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> Before anyone goes off on me for having the gall to doubt Google, I am
>>> very confused about something.
>>>
>>> I've heard all the chatter about 7.5 not being supported as of May 31
>>> and/or June 1 2008, however, does anyone else find it disconcerting that
>>> there is not a single mention of this fact on AVG's website?
>>>
>>> I just spent the better part of the last 4 hours looking for any mention
>>> of Grissoft ceasing support for version 7.5, and managed to turn up zip.
>>>
>>> I searched through the forums, the press releases, news, and everything
>>> on
>>> their site makes no mention of 7.5 ceasing support on this or any other
>>> date in question.
>>>
>>> I am so confused, and, quite frankly, frustrated at the possibility that
>>> this may be just a rumour, and we've fallen pray to this.
>>>
>>> I understand that various users have gotten the message when downloading
>>> the newest update from the update manager within AVG, but how many have
>>> actually gotten this message, and was there a link within the notice 
>>> that
>>> allowed you to get more information?
>>>
>>> If so, did anyone click on this link to get the more information, or did
>>> they just take the notice as gospel?
>>>
>>> Like I said, you would think that major news of this would be everywhere
>>> on the site, especially if the company wants to keep itself out of court
>>> for any possible lawsuits that may come about for not notifying the
>>> public
>>> of this fact.
>>>
>>> Like I said, is it me, or what?
>>>
>>> I know this whole thread has been talked about to death, however, I've
>>> seen no concrete proof from Grissoft, and to date, everyone is talking
>>> about what other anti-virus to use, instead of getting the facts
>>> straight.
>>>
>>> I have two computers that I have to get out of my office, but I'm not
>>> going to go through the trouble of uninstalling AVG 7.5 if I don't 
>>> really
>>> have to.
>>>
>>> So, can anyone, anyone at all, shed some light on this topic?
>>>
>>>
>>> Victor
>>> Co-moderator
>>> Blind Movie Buffs List
>>> Guidedogs List
>>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com
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>>> http://www.blind-computing.com
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:36:51 -0700
>> From: Carlene Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] So Confused About AVG?
>> To: [email protected]
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Did you get the message because it will no longer be supported, or 
>> because
>
>> your
>> license expired?  Just a thought.
>>
>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 13:01:00 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, I got the message on my computer screen.  There were two buttons: 
>>>one
>>>button for upgrade now and one button for upgrade later.  I choose the
>>>upgrade later button.
>>>I have just completed the installation of Avast Free Home and so far so
>>>good.
>>>John
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "blind Computing" <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:13 PM
>>>Subject: [Blind-Computing] So Confused About AVG?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> Before anyone goes off on me for having the gall to doubt Google, I am
>>>> very confused about something.
>>>>
>>>> I've heard all the chatter about 7.5 not being supported as of May 31
>>>> and/or June 1 2008, however, does anyone else find it disconcerting 
>>>> that
>>>> there is not a single mention of this fact on AVG's website?
>>>>
>>>> I just spent the better part of the last 4 hours looking for any 
>>>> mention
>>>> of Grissoft ceasing support for version 7.5, and managed to turn up 
>>>> zip.
>>>>
>>>> I searched through the forums, the press releases, news, and everything
>>>> on
>>>> their site makes no mention of 7.5 ceasing support on this or any other
>>>> date in question.
>>>>
>>>> I am so confused, and, quite frankly, frustrated at the possibility 
>>>> that
>>>> this may be just a rumour, and we've fallen pray to this.
>>>>
>>>> I understand that various users have gotten the message when 
>>>> downloading
>>>> the newest update from the update manager within AVG, but how many have
>>>> actually gotten this message, and was there a link within the notice
>>>> that
>>>> allowed you to get more information?
>>>>
>>>> If so, did anyone click on this link to get the more information, or 
>>>> did
>>>> they just take the notice as gospel?
>>>>
>>>> Like I said, you would think that major news of this would be 
>>>> everywhere
>>>> on the site, especially if the company wants to keep itself out of 
>>>> court
>>>> for any possible lawsuits that may come about for not notifying the
>>>> public
>>>> of this fact.
>>>>
>>>> Like I said, is it me, or what?
>>>>
>>>> I know this whole thread has been talked about to death, however, I've
>>>> seen no concrete proof from Grissoft, and to date, everyone is talking
>>>> about what other anti-virus to use, instead of getting the facts
>>>> straight.
>>>>
>>>> I have two computers that I have to get out of my office, but I'm not
>>>> going to go through the trouble of uninstalling AVG 7.5 if I don't
>>>> really
>>>> have to.
>>>>
>>>> So, can anyone, anyone at all, shed some light on this topic?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Victor
>>>> Co-moderator
>>>> Blind Movie Buffs List
>>>> Guidedogs List
>>>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com
>>>> Visit the Blind Computing home page at:
>>>> http://www.blind-computing.com
>>>> Address for the list archives:
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:39:47 -0600
>> From: Nimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] So Confused About AVG?
>> To: Victor Gouveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> [email protected]
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Hello,
>> This is OK. When you run your first scan, these things will no longer be
>> unavailable.
>> Thanks
>> Nimer J
>>
>>
>>
>> Nimer M. Jaber
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>>
>> Victor Gouveia wrote:
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> Before anyone goes off on me for having the gall to doubt Google, I am
>>> very confused about something.
>>>
>>> I've heard all the chatter about 7.5 not being supported as of May 31
>>> and/or June 1 2008, however, does anyone else find it disconcerting that
>>> there is not a single mention of this fact on AVG's website?
>>>
>>> I just spent the better part of the last 4 hours looking for any mention
>>> of Grissoft ceasing support for version 7.5, and managed to turn up zip.
>>>
>>> I searched through the forums, the press releases, news, and everything
>>> on their site makes no mention of 7.5 ceasing support on this or any
>>> other date in question.
>>>
>>> I am so confused, and, quite frankly, frustrated at the possibility that
>>> this may be just a rumour, and we've fallen pray to this.
>>>
>>> I understand that various users have gotten the message when downloading
>>> the newest update from the update manager within AVG, but how many have
>>> actually gotten this message, and was there a link within the notice 
>>> that
>
>>> allowed you to get more information?
>>>
>>> If so, did anyone click on this link to get the more information, or did
>>> they just take the notice as gospel?
>>>
>>> Like I said, you would think that major news of this would be everywhere
>>> on the site, especially if the company wants to keep itself out of court
>>> for any possible lawsuits that may come about for not notifying the
>>> public of this fact.
>>>
>>> Like I said, is it me, or what?
>>>
>>> I know this whole thread has been talked about to death, however, I've
>>> seen no concrete proof from Grissoft, and to date, everyone is talking
>>> about what other anti-virus to use, instead of getting the facts
>>> straight.
>>>
>>> I have two computers that I have to get out of my office, but I'm not
>>> going to go through the trouble of uninstalling AVG 7.5 if I don't 
>>> really
>
>>> have to.
>>>
>>> So, can anyone, anyone at all, shed some light on this topic?
>>>
>>>
>>> Victor
>>> Co-moderator
>>> Blind Movie Buffs List
>>> Guidedogs List
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>>>  http://www.jaws-users.com
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