Ok.

Just tried turning on screen echo - all, and while it sort of works without 
using the jaws cursor, the main problem is that it keeps on telling you the 
time passed - LOL!

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Parham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] A very old text-based DOS game


>I haven't seen any. Maybe turning on "say all" in jaws would help?
> ---
> Contact info:
> Skype: parham-d
> MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com
> email: parham90 at GMail dot com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jacob Kruger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] A very old text-based DOS game
>
>
>> Ok, yet another comment.
>>
>> I now need to find a game script that'll work with this tads engine that
>> they recommend for VI guys, but we'll get there...
>>
>> Stay well
>>
>> Jacob Kruger
>> Blind Biker
>> Skype: BlindZA
>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jacob Kruger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] A very old text-based DOS game
>>
>>
>>> Ok, and again, now while looking around those sites, I found this page,
>>> which is specifically aimed at/related to getting these game engines to
>>> work
>>> with screenreaders:
>>> http://www.tads.org/vision.htm
>>>
>>> Stay well
>>>
>>> Jacob Kruger
>>> Blind Biker
>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jacob Kruger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] A very old text-based DOS game
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ok, for interests sake, after in fact allowing the IFDB.org ActiveX
>>>> installer to install yet another game engine for another game, I can 
>>>> now
>>>> play this version of the original hobbit game (although the author in
>>>> fact
>>>> admits that he starts you off in a slightly different place).
>>>>
>>>> The other game interpreting engine is called:
>>>> windows Frotz
>>>>
>>>> It can handle the game scripts called something along the lines of 
>>>> z1-z8
>>>> apparently, and that version of the original hobbit game is a .z5.
>>>>
>>>> Stay well
>>>>
>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>> Blind Biker
>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Parham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:53 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] A very old text-based DOS game
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Here is the IFDB page you need. It has come up in search of "Hobbit".
>>>>> It
>>>>> can
>>>>> be a good reference when you are looking for an IF (interactive
>>>>> fiction)
>>>>> game. Other websites include,
>>>>> http://www.if-archive.org
>>>>> which is also an FTP. I'm writing my own IF game for the 2009
>>>>> compitition.
>>>>> :)
>>>>> And, here is the URL to the Hobbit!:
>>>>> http://ifdb.tads.org/search?searchbar=hobbit&searchGo.x=0&searchGo.y=0
>>>>> Have fun hobbit-ing!
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Contact info:
>>>>> Skype: parham-d
>>>>> MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com
>>>>> email: parham90 at GMail dot com
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Jacob Kruger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:22 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] A very old text-based DOS game
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 'The hobbit'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Based on JRR Tolkien's book, and there were originally versions for
>>>>>> Commodores, ZX Spectrums etc. etc., but this is the DOS version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stay well
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>>>> Blind Biker
>>>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Parham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:21 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] A very old text-based DOS game
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Jacob,
>>>>>>> Would you tell me the name of the game? I might be able to retrieve
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> Infocom or Tads version possibly, which would be playable under any
>>>>>>> operating system, given the correct programs.
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Contact info:
>>>>>>> Skype: parham-d
>>>>>>> MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com
>>>>>>> email: parham90 at GMail dot com
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Jacob Kruger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:26 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] A very old text-based DOS game
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi there
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I got hold of almost the very first game I ever played on a PC as
>>>>>>>> such,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> while it's meant to run in the command line, and basically you type
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> commands/answers etc., it just seems to hang if now run under
>>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>>> XP
>>>>>>>> Pro, and although I tried playing with various settings in the
>>>>>>>> properties
>>>>>>>> dialogue, under the program tab, which seems to be basically 
>>>>>>>> focused
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> properties specific to command line apps, even when then trying to
>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> from the then created 'shortcut', it just 'hangs', and if I try
>>>>>>>> virtualising
>>>>>>>> the window using Jaws key + Ctrl + W, it still returns nothing, so 
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>> it's literally just hanging.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suppose I could try create a virtual machine using an 
>>>>>>>> installation
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> something like MSDos 6.0 (which I think was the last standalone of
>>>>>>>> DOS
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> thereabouts), and see if that would then work, but what then about
>>>>>>>> screenreading?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, know this isn't mainstream, but just thought I may as well
>>>>>>>> ask,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> for interests sake, this game is the text-based adventure game of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Hobbit
>>>>>>>> from around the late 80s, and it was literally one of the first
>>>>>>>> games
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> really played on a PC (where had already been playing others in a
>>>>>>>> Commodore
>>>>>>>> 64).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stay well
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>>>>>> Blind Biker
>>>>>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>>>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>>>>>
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