You actually can shift-tab and review the history. There is also a hotkey to go back to that history window, but I haven't used WLM in a while. Thanks Nimer J
aiden gardiner wrote: > Nimer, > > The only reason I won't switch from jaws to window eyes is that jaws > provides mutch better support for Windows live messanger. If you use it, how > do you get it to repeat messages that you've missed? > > Aiden > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 4:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] GW MICRO AND FREEDOM SCIENTIFIC, A COMPARISON > > > >> I am a user of window eyes, and have been for a long time. I am going to >> answer your questions to the best of my ability, but you may want to >> join the GWmicro list by sending a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> JOHN JUSTICE wrote: >> >>> Recently, my wife learned that an effort is being made to use Window-Eyes >>> at her work site. Her computer has been loaded with Version 6.1. With a >>> view to helping her to learn the program, I contacted GW Micro and >>> learned >>> that an evaluation version can be purchased for 60 days. The cost is $39 >>> plus shipping. This version, unlike the trial software which is down >>> loadable, has no restrictions in operation or time. The evaluation >>> version >>> is fully functional but will last only 60 days after which it becomes no >>> longer accessible. To me, that is a very nice idea. But I do have a >>> couple >>> of questions. >>> >>> 1. Does anyone on this list use Window-Eyes? >>> I have tried playing with the software but the controls seem so vastly >>> different from Jaws and I feel a bit lost. For example, the keys on the >>> keypad which normally change from cursor to cursor in Jaws, don't seem to >>> operate in the same manner. That brings up my next question. >>> Window Eyes controls, in my opinion, are vastly easier than JAWS, not >>> requiring the use of a configuration menu. I have used both products, and >>> WE's menu structure is easy, and there are shortcuts for almost >>> everything. >>> 2. Jaws has a PC cursor, a Jaws cursor and an invisible cursor. Are >>> there >>> comparable functions with Window Eyes? If so, how the devil do you find >>> them? >>> I have been able to use Window-Eyes in Outlook Express. There, at least, >>> it >>> seems to work in a more or less normal manner. That is as far as reading >>> the e-mail is concerned. I haven't tried typing with Window-Eyes yet. >>> In >>> fact, I'm a bit frightened of the prospect. That brings up my next >>> question. >>> Window Eyes uses what is known as a mouse cursor type thing as well as >>> the regular cursor. The mouse cursor allows you to see what is on the >>> screen. This is especially useful for an application that isn't as >>> accessible, although Window Eyes 7.0 has incorporated a virtual view >>> script that effectively negates the use of the mouse. This is accessible >>> via the keypad keys on a desktop in desktop layout. Slash is left click, >>> Star is right click, and the numbers move you. >>> 3. Is there a quick reference guide somewhere in the manual which will >>> give >>> you a description of the functions which is short and sweet? >>> Yes, there is. It is known as appendix A, and it is in the manual. >>> 4. How do you adjust the voices in Window-Eyes? >>> >>> >> The voices are adjusted by several methods. >> 1. Use control+alt+arrows to adjust tone, pitch, rate, volume by using >> left arrow, up arrow, and down arrow. Select for what the voices will be >> applied by using the right arrow in conjunction with the up, and down >> arrows. For example, a voice can be set just for the screen, I.E what is >> read. Or, it can be set for the keyboard, I.E what is typed on the >> keyboard if key echo is on. Or, it can be set for the mouse, I.E the >> mouse cursor. Finally, you can select the voice for all, meaning the >> screen, keyboard, and mouse. Once finished, press alt in the window eyes >> control panel, arrow down to save, press enter, and press enter on set >> file. This will save the set file. If it asks you if you want to >> associate it with the current application, either select yes or no. >> Selecting yes will mean that the voice is selected for that app, where >> as selecting no is for the entire computer. >> 2. You can also go into the menus. For example, press alt once in >> the window eyes control panel. Press right arrow to screen. Down arrow, >> and you will see your controls. Do this for screen, keyboard, and mouse. >> >> >>> 5. Is there a way to change the way the cursor responds from characters >>> to >>> words quickly and effectively? >>> What do you mean? >>> COMMENTS: The one thing I noticed immediately with GW Micro was their >>> willingness to help in every way they could. Help can be had at Freedom >>> Scientific and in fact, some of the technical support people are pretty >>> good. But GW Micro seems to go out of the way to be of service. I am >>> impressed by that. On Sunday, 09/21/2008, one of the GW Micro reps is >>> going >>> to introduce Linda to Window-Eyes for the first time. she has never been >>> exposed to a Windows based screen reader before. To put it bluntly, Lin >>> isn't one who will go out of her way to mess with a computer. That just >>> isn't her thing. But it seems like she may have to learn if only the >>> basics. >>> >>> Thanks for your patience with this note. I'd sincerely appreciate any >>> help >>> one of you can give. >>> >>> John and Linda Justice >>> With guide dogs Jake and Zachary >>> >>> "My job feeds my family, music feeds my soul." >>> >>> PERSONAL E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com >>> Visit the Blind Computing home page at: >>> http://www.blind-computing.com >>> Address for the list archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject >>> or body of a blank message to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Use the following address in order to contact the management team >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the >>> following address: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >> http://www.jaws-users.com >> Visit the Blind Computing home page at: >> http://www.blind-computing.com >> Address for the list archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject >> or body of a blank message to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Use the following address in order to contact the management team >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the >> following address: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > http://www.jaws-users.com > Visit the Blind Computing home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following address in order to contact the management team > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
