You are very lucky to be given a braille display. That does not happen in
the U.S. Check with the maker and see if they can help since I don't think
that is an old one at all. They might just need to contact Apple. I don't
have a braille display so am envious of you.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Øyvind Lode" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]
MACOSaccessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver
Papenmeier Braillex els 80.
To be honest I don't know if this Braille display is very old or less
common.
I see myself as an intermediate Braille reader, I have just been reading
Braille for 1.5 years.
I love Braille and find it very useful combined with speech and hope to
improve my reading capabilities.
The Papenmeier display was recommended by the local authorities and I said
ok give me one of those.
I was in a hurry and eager to begin reading.
But as I understand I should be able to replace it with another Braille
display if I encounter problems...
I not quite sure how to express/explain this in English...
Anyway I am not going to try to replace it at this time though.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dgcnc
Sent: 11. september 2009 17:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC
OSaccessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver
What braille display are you using? Is it maybe an older one or a less
common one? You might also contact the company that makes it and they may be
able to tell you how do make it work. It may be that you can set it up as
another brand and it will work just fine. I'm glad you got such great
response.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Øyvind Lode" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS
accessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver
Maybe I misunderstand you.
I am not a native english speaker.
I cannot find my Braille display on the list of suppoerted displays.
I also sent an email to Apple and they confirmed that my display is not
supported.
But they will try to add support for it in the future.
Very quick response on that email though...
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010
Sent: 11. september 2009 17:13
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility
-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver
Why not try to figure out why this is so? If you really need it that is.
Matthew
---- Original Message -----
From: "Øyvind Lode" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility -
was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver
I just found that my Braille display is not supported on Snow Leopard.
I hope that Apple will add support for my Braille display in the future.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010
Sent: 10. september 2009 18:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE:
questionCentinelSystem Driver
Braille support on Mac is suppose to be phenomenal. if you go to the blind
cool tech site you will find and endless amount of Mac tutorials covering
all your questions below.
http://www.blindcooltech.com/
There is a great one on an app called Parallels? which will boot an image of
your windows desktop on the Mac. I would also consider dumping Freedom
scientific's Open book and going with K1000--I did this and have never
regretted it.
Matthew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Øyvind Lode" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:59 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: question
CentinelSystem Driver
Interesting.
I really want to move away from Windows, but I have not really found
an alternative.
I have a UNIX background so the move to MAC should not be that hard...
How is the Braille support on MAC?
I really need Braille capabilities, an accessible web browser,
accessible email and secure shell to access my Linux machines both at
home and at work.
I also need Open Book or similar to scan and read my snail mail.
I suppose I can set up a dual boot on the MAC to run XP just to be
able to use Open Book.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Donald
Marang
Sent: 10. september 2009 17:35
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver
Hi Mathew,
I usually get risky and try their betas. If it was not for the
scripting capability I would probably switch to another screen reader.
Unfortunately,
FS is unable or unwilling to provide support for JAWS script functions
that do not work as documented! I am seriously considering buying a
Mac.
Apple
seems serious now about accessibility! I like what I hear about the
improvements in Voice Over in Snow Leopard. Voice Over also has Apple
Scripting capabilities now which controls more than just the screen
reader.
Apple's decision to include Voice Over on the new iPhone and an
accessible iPod don't hurt demonstrating Apple's commitment either.
I removed Sentinel from my computer to see if the USB problem goes away.
I
had never noticed it in the Programs list before. What version of
Sentinel is installed on your computer? Perhaps FS just updated this
software during the JAWS 11 beta installation. The version I removed
was 7.5.0.
Don Marang
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew_2010" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver
I became kinda curious after reading your message, and I looked in
control panel and discovered I also have this Sentinal system driver
and am not running Jaws 11. Its possible that a previous version of
jaws installed this, or maybe another piece of software installed it.
Its only some .5 megs so I decided to just leave it there. It seems as
though Jaws installs an inordinate amount of junk on one's computer.
I'm sure if you ask FS they
will not agree its junk, but I also checked out the window eyes
programs folder and it had some 98 megs of files but FS has a total of
450+ megs of files--this is without the FS daisy tutorials. In short,
I'd say just leave
that sentinel driver there. some time ago I tried uninstalling some
strange
file in my control panel and jaws crumbled. I had to reinstall jaws
all over again. I too get those strange USB connecting problems, but I
don't know if its jaws or something else. I notice it only happens
when I actually connect and disconnect something I attached--I get the
sounds out of nowhere hours later. I do have to say that I've attached
many USB devices including external hard drives and USB drives and
can't recall hearing any of these sounds. Though its possible I have
learned to ignore then and simply don't recall when they happen. Its
for these frustrations I
don't install freedom scientific betas as it serves me no benefit to
wreck my computer in order to help an organization like FS simply sell
the product I tested right back to me. Its not just my time and effort
that they are taking from me, it can also be my own computer's
reliable functionality. I say no thanks to that and I call FS tech
support at any slight hint of a bug demanding they fix the problems
with the now possibly $2000 I have invested in their screen reader.
Matthew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Marang" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver
Thanks Mathew for performing that simple lookup. I could not
directly respond to your email because Windows Mail thought your
message was fishing!
I did notice that this software was installed as part of JAWS 11 beta!
Not sure why JAWS needs this type of USB security! Have they
incorporated the dongle version into JAWS 11? I noticed this was
now part of JAWS 11 because it failed during installation. I
discovered that
the only way it would install without error was to turn off Trend
Micro Security (antivirus and firewall) software that came with my Dell.
I am very uncomfortable with this software for many reasons. Most
importantly, I have been having USB problems on this Vista computer
ever since I installed JAWS 11 beta! My computer keeps making those
USB plug in / unplug sounds all the time! my USB keyboard stops
responding randomly! Unacceptable! I noticed that Vista or Windows
7 were not mentioned in Mathew's link. I know that may not be the
same version installed, but it is not a good sign. I did go into
the Device Manager and reinstall all of the USB devices using the
laptop keyboard. That only helped for a short time. I don't even
think I need to run JAWS 11 beta for my USB keyboard to go haywire.
I am going to report this to FS and uninstall the beta! I wanted to
play
more with ResearchIt, but being able to type is more important. I
hope getting rid of JAWS 11 also completely removes Sentinel completely!
Don Marang
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Amaro" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver
Do I need it installed on my system?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Amaro" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:34 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver
Hello listers,
Can some one please tell me what the Centinel system Driver is
used fore? I am using a del1525 inspron laptop. Windows XP Pro
and
jaws 9.
Thanks
Michael
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