Other than not using standard controls, I can not say that Live Mail sucks!
I actually like it a little better than Windows Mail. Not being able to use
first letter navigation in the Folders tree and not scrolling correctly so
JAWS will speak the folder name are probably Microsoft's fault. The
switching to a message view that displays html better is also a benefit in
the long run. Unfortunately JAWS does not always work as expected and often
gets stuck in forms mode and I can not get out without exiting JAWS and
restarting. It is a shame that the JAWS 11 scripts actually are worse and
any changes only seem to have broken things. The most troubling thing is
that Live Mail has been out a long time, and FS does not appear to want to
support it! That is why people are taking matters into their own hands and
finding a solution. It has nothing to do with being a non-conformist or
wanting to stand out!
Don Marang
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From: "blindguy" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 4:32 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] I took the plunge and am Now
tryingtogowithThunderbird> I agree, live mail sucks and I, to must swich to
jaws 10 to make it work.
After a while though, I just said forget it and swiched to ms outlook 07.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Donald Marang
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] I took the plunge and am Now trying to
gowithThunderbird
JAWS does not work well with Microsoft Live Mail! Since Outlook Express
and
Windows Mail are not available in Windows7, people are forced to switch to
something. FS has scripts for Live Mail in JAWS 10 and 11, but they have
lots of flaws. The JAWS 10 scripts actually work better for me than JAWS
11. I can not even read mail with JAWS 11! I need to switch to JAWS 10
every time I want to read mail. This gets very agravating! The scripts
for
JAWS 10 are less annoying and my biggest complaint is that it will not
announce "unread" or indicate when there is an enclosure. FS is very
aware
of the problem, do not seem interested in fixing the problems or even
admitting that they have scripts for Live Mail. They seem to think that
everybody should dish out more money for Outlook, since that is what all
of
their corporate accounts require.
I am seriously thinking of switching to Thunderbird 3 as well, and I have
more interesting things to do than play around with a mail program. I
have
downloaded the program, but have other things to do.
Don Marang
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From: "Bill Gallik" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:11 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] I took the plunge and am Now trying to
gowithThunderbird
I'm completely confused as to why, if folks are experiencing so much
difficulty, they are prone to use browsers and e-mail clients other than
Internet Explorer and Windows Mail or Outlook. I understand the
"glamour"
of being able to identify one's self as a non-conformist and hence using
tools other than those provided by Microsoft, but considering the
difficulties I've seen on various lists I wouldn't touch any of these
tools with someone else's screen reader. Obviously, JAWS has been
developed and delivered complete with strong support files to interact
with Internet Explorer and any of the Microsoft e-mail clients. I
presume
the same can be said for WindowEyes. So, why not not use what works best
given the framework of needing to use a screen reader?
I guess, that since I was a software developer for so many years, I find
no personal satisfaction in being able to say I am not a conformist. I
just want to use what works the best given my limitations.
If the reason for using the non-Microsoft tools is enhanced security,
then
why not take the entire plunge and move to Linux?
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!!!
----
Holland's Person, Bill
E-Mail: [email protected]
In the opening paragraphs of "A Christmas Carol" Dickens is overwrought
to
express that Jacob Marley is dead:
"Mind! I don't mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there
is
particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself,
to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade.
But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands
shall not disturb it, or the Country's done for. You will therefore
permit
me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail."
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