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----- Original Message -----
From: "Moderator" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How old is Grandpa
Okay, folks, let's bring this to an end!
The original post wasn't meant to offend anyone, in fact,
I believe it was meant as touch of humor.
If anyone thinks this post of mine is meant to stifle anyone's opinions,
then take it up with me off-list.
Now, as David has already said, let's get back to business!
Thank you,
Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
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----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How old is Grandpa
I doubt many of the things mentioned in this e-mail. I am offended at
such posts because they are urban legends which are just passed on to
people who know no better. I am that age myself. Both penicillin and
television, and cocaine did exist. In 1947 the first television station
aired in our town. I knew a man who purchased one in 1947. When I was a
young child I saw an electric typewriter, and tasted instant coffee. many
parents weren't married when their children were born. Proving
illegitimacy existed in 1951. The dollar was worth more then. But what
does that prove. When long distance calls weren't often placed because
their cost was prohibitive. In fact they had to be encouraged by the
telephone company. The reason stamps cost so much more now days is
because so much business is done on line. Nullifying the need for stamps.
When I was born in 1951, there was no SSI or SSDi either. We blind had to
depend on whatever the individual states decided would be our stipend.
Which meant most of us never did live lives independently from our
parents. The disabled in America were still forcibly sterilized. In
winter, if you didn't have money to pay your gas and your electric bill
you were allowed to freeze to death. There were those in this country who
lived without central heating or indoor plumbing. Just because marijuana
wasn't called "grass" didn't mean it wasn't used. There were limited
resources for drug rehabilitation if they existed at all. There were no
emission standards for automobiles. So one had to breathe all the exhaust
from all the cars. Not to mention all the second hand smoke. There were
advertising slogans such as "Why not have a Lucky instead of a sweet."
After one got cancer from all the junk one breathed, there was no chemo
therapy. Cancer was pretty far advanced before it was detected. There
was no sonography. There was no microsurgery to save lives of fetuses.
Believe me, you could tell when you entered a city verses leaving the
suburbs just by smelling the exhaust fumes. It was not uncommon for women
and children to be beaten without censure by anyone. Racial segregation
still existed. And in at least 15 states marriage between the races was
forbidden by law. If marriages between the races occurred both the couple
as well as the person performing the marriage was fined up to 500 dollars.
Pole taxes were levied, and if they couldn't be paid by poorer people,
those poorer people just didn't vote in southern states. There were also
literacy tests conducted to determine voter eligibility. A white voter
was asked to sign his name or to read a simple passage. While a black
potential voter was given a section of the constitution to interpret. The
Church bombing killing four young innocent black children occurred in
1964. This was 13 years past 1951. in either 63 or 62, I can't remember
which The governor of Alabama stood in the doorway of a state institution
of higher learning and said: "Segregation now, and Segregation forever."
Blacks on vacation were forced to eat in their cars because they weren't
served in southern establishments. Black children weren't allowed to go
to the same holiday events as were white children. Even in northern
cities Black women weren't allowed to try on hats in department stores,
because it was believed they might have lice. Ghettos existed. Even
where they didn't many people refused to rent to people with children.
Ethnic jokes were common, and many clubs prohibited Jews and Catholics
entrance. Lynchings were still conducted. With the body parts of the
lynched victim handed out as trophies. Can anyone say Emmett Till. Or is
his story forgotten. I fear it is. At least by the person forwarding
this post. No matter how old black adults were they were often called boy
or girl by southerners. Rather than sir, as the post suggests. The older
blacks were called Uncle or Aunt. Black blind college aged students were
never sent to college by their states. Rather, they were funneled into
the sheltered workshops, or told a viable employment plan was to sell
pencils and or magazines on the streets. My late Husband's black blind
Aunt did such in that year. Native Americans were forbidden by law to
drink hard licker. This ban wasn't lifted till 1954. So next time you
want to send such a post do your research before saying because it looks
nice the claims made by it are valid. Forwarding such posts attempts to
subtly nullify the enormous strides made these past 60 years. Regardless
what you think of our president: A black president would have never been
elected in 1951. It wasn't till 1960 we saw our first Catholic president.
We have never seen another. We have yet to see our first woman or Jewish,
or atheist president. In fact, I doubt an avowed atheist could even make
the first presidential cut. No matter what his credentials might be.
We must never forget the distance we have come; and ask ourselves when
looking at such sentimental twaddle whether we truly want to return to the
"good old days". Because, for some Americans, the "good old days" weren't
all that good.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marilyn Walker" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:20 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] How old is Grandpa
Let me add that the President of the United States is "only "48 years
old
How Old Is Grandpa?
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Stay with this -- the answer is at the end. It will blow you away.
One evening a grandson was talking to his grandfather about current
events.
The grandson asked his grandfather what he thought about the
shootings at schools, the computer age, and just things in general..
The Grandfather replied, "Well, let me think a minute, I was born
before:
' television
' penicillin
' polio shots
' frozen foods
' Xerox
' contact lenses
' Frisbees and
' the pill
There were no:
' credit cards
' laser beams or
' ball-point pens
Man had not invented:
' pantyhose
' air conditioners
' dishwashers
' clothes dryers
' and the clothes were hung out to dry in the fresh air and
' man hadn't yet walked on the moon
[]
Your Grandmother and I got married first, .. .... ... and then lived
together..
Every family had a father and a mother.
Until I was 25, I called every man older than me, "Sir".
And after I turned 25, I still called policemen and every man with a
title, "Sir."
We were before, computer- dating, dual careers, daycare centers, and
group therapy.
Our lives were governed by the Ten Commandments, good judgment, and
common sense.
We were taught to know the difference between right and wrong and to
stand up and take responsibility for our actions.
Serving your country was a privilege; living in this country was a
bigger privilege..
We thought fast food was what people ate during Lent.
Having a meaningful relationship meant getting along with your cousins.
Draft dodgers were those who closed front doors as the evening breeze
started.
Time-sharing meant time the family spent together in the evenings and
weekends-not purchasing condominiums.
[]
We never heard of FM radios, tape decks, CDs, electric typewriters,
yogurt, or guys wearing earrings.
We listened to Big Bands, Jack Benny, and the President's speeches on
our radios.
And I don't ever remember any kid blowing his brains out listening to
Tommy Dorsey.
If you saw anything with 'Made in Japan ' on it, it was junk
The term 'making out' referred to how you did on your school exam..
Pizza Hut, McDonald's, and instant coffee were unheard of.
We had 5 &10-cent stores where you could actually buy things for 5
and 10 cents.
Ice-cream cones, phone calls, rides on a streetcar, and a Pepsi were
all a nickel.
And if you didn't want to splurge, you could spend your nickel on
enough stamps to mail 1 letter and 2 postcards.
You could buy a new Chevy Coupe for $600, . .. . but who could afford
one?
Too bad, because gas was 11 cents a gallon.
In my day:
' "grass" was mowed,
' "coke" was a cold drink,
' "pot" was something your mother cooked in and
' "rock music" was your grandmother's lullaby.
' "Aids" were helpers in the Principal's office,
' " chip" meant a piece of wood,
' "hardware" was found in a hardware store and
' "software" wasn't even a word.
[]
And we were the last generation to actually believe that a lady
needed a husband to have a baby.
No wonder people call us "old and confused" and say there is a
generation gap. And how old do you think I am?
I bet you have this old man in mind...you are in for a shock!
Read on to see -- pretty scary if you think about it and pretty sad
at the same time.
Are you ready ?????
This person would be only 59 years old.
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