Hi Chris, Here's a thought. How about instead of putting something into the replacement word field, assign a sound to the 8203 character. Assign a sound that you can only hear if the volume is turned way up. I haven't tried this but, it wouldn't hurt to give it a whirl. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Feist To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Can I use the JAWS dictionary to notread Unicode characters? Hi. That's how I did it. If I recall, I held down the alt key when I typed out 8203 and it created that character. I then copied it to the JAWS dictionary. But it wants me to put something in the edit field to replace it, and I used the space bar. Unfortunately, then when JAWS reads a line with that character in it, since this character appears in the middle of words, it breaks up the word. For example: "Hi, how is ever yone doing? Unfortunate y my comp uter has issues." If I could just get JAWS to ignore that Unicode character all together and just read as if it wasn't there. But at least it's better than it was. Some sentences I still can't understand, but others I can figure out what it is supposed to say. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara In Arcadia Hi Chris, I was able to make what you are wanting to do work in Outlook Express & Word. Below are the steps I used to do it. I did use the default dictionary manager instead of 1 of the application dictionary managers. 1. I created the " ? " & copied it to the clipboard. 2. Pressed Insert / Jaws key + D, for the the application dictionary manager, & then pressed control, shift, + D, for the default dictionary manager. 3. Tabbed to the Add button, pressed spacebar to open the Actual Word edit field, pressed the back space key a few times to make sure this edit field was empty, pasted the, " ? " character. 4. Tabbed to the Replacement Word edit field, pressed the spacebar 1 time, tabbed to the okay button & pressed enter. 5. Invoke the control + S keystroke to save, & Alt + F4 to close. This is how I created the " ? ." I turned the numlock off, held the alt key down, pressed 8, 2, 0, 3, let up on the alt key, & there was the " ? ". I then copied it & went from there. If you are creating 8203 symbol differently please let me know & I'll try to duplicate what you're doing. The " ? " is what I get when invoking the Alt + 8203 keystroke and I'm curious if you're getting a different symbol. Take care. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Feist To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Can I use the JAWS dictionary to notread Unicode characters? Hi. Turns out I was able to create the Unicode character 8203 in Word. I then was able to copy it and put it into the JAWS dictionary. However, I'm stuck once again. It requires I put something in the edit field for it to be spoken as. But to just use the spacebar doesn't work because then it splits up the voicing of words since this Unicode character randomly appears in the middle of words on Facebook. What I'm trying to do is have JAWS totally ignore character 8203 as if it wasn't on the screen at all. But if I have to put something, even a space, in the field for how I want it to be spoken, it's still speaking incorrectly. Not sure what to try next. If I can just figure out a way to have JAWS ignore this character, then my Facebook struggles will be over, at least in this particular case. -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Mike & Bar Hi Chris, If you can't copy the character there will be no way to put an entry into the dictionary manager for it. I made a mistake when I said the ASCII character 8203 was a, mail symbol. I used the word mail, spelled,M, A, I, L. It is actually supposed to be, M, A, L, E, as in a man's symbol. I did an ASCII character 8204, & it is a female symbol. I have no idea what or how Facebook works since I am not involved with any Social Networking groups. I do certainly hope that you can get the problem resolved but, from the way it looks the dictionary manager won't be of any help. Take care. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Feist To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Can I use the JAWS dictionary to notread Unicode characters? HI. When I read current line, what it says Is question mark, or sometimes it acts like a question mark and makes the word sound like it's asking a question. But if I put the cursor on this character, it says absolutely nothing. Not even blank. It's completely silent. But if I hit the current character key three times, it tells me that it's ASCKI character 8 2 zero 3. I tried to copy this character, but it just says "nothing selected". So, as far as I can tell, I can't have the JAWS dictionary ignore these strange Unicode characters, if that's what they are. I'm really confused on what this even is. I can barely read statuses on the mobile site of Facebook anymore since so many of these characters are appearing in the posts. It's maddening. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara In Arcadia Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Can I use the JAWS dictionary to not read Unicodecharacters? Hi Chris, When I typed the ASCII 8203 into a new blank email it read as, " mail symbol ." Is that what you hearing when Jaws is reading. I ask this because in your example you used, question mark. So, is Jaws saying, mail symbol or question mark? If you can type the ASCII symbol, you can then copy the symbol, paste it into the Jaws dictionary manager actual word field, then in the replacement word field put a space with the spacebar. At least it is worth a try. If it doesn't work you can go into the dictionary manager and delete the entry. Hope this works for you. Take care. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Feist To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Can I use the JAWS dictionary to not read Unicodecharacters? Hi. Is it possible to enter the ASCKI character 8 2 zero 3 in the JAWS dictionary somehow? There's this strange character that began appearing in much of the posts all over Facebook, and it only seems to be read allowed by screen-readers, not visually seen. It disrupts the flow of the sentences, sounding something like this: HI, How is everbod question mark y doing? I' question mark m doing fine. It's awful. Since I doubt Facebook will fix whatever they broke last week, especially since they can't see it on the screen, I thought I'd try to take matters into my own hands and see if I can force JAWS to ignore this strange character so JAWS will read each sentence properly like before. So, if it's possible, how do I enter this ASCKI character 8 2 zero 3 in the JAWS dictionary edit field? 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