In jaws and window eyes you can turn on your keyboard help by Pressing insert + 1 on the number row. Usually insert is the key second to last on very top row of keys. You more than likely won't hear anything when pressing the FN, control, or shift keys.

-M
W7HP32bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "dgcnc" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Opening Attachments in Windows Mail


David, I can't help but smile at this. No wonder things don't work right. I don't even know where my keys are. I am using a Dell laptop. Going from the spacebar, to the left is alt, Windows, a key labeled FN which acts like a shift key to make that top row my F1-12, and far left is control. To the right, there are only two keys between the spacebar and the left arrow. Since it sounds like I may have an unusual layout, what might the Application key say or symbol on it? This may be a sighted person task.

Greg

-----Original Message----- From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Opening Attachments in Windows Mail

Just to the right of the space bar is the alt key. Next over to the right is
the windows key. Next is the applications key of which there is only one.
Lastly is the control key.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
----- Original Message ----- From: "dgcnc" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Opening Attachments in Windows Mail


Are you calling the key just to the right of the spacebar the Windows
Application key? Sorry, but I have a lot to learn and want to learn it
right.

You are exactly right in your explanation. If the person is horrified of
destroying their computer as all new computer users are, perhaps a
beginner's approach might be if you don't know who it's from and don't know
what it is, don't open it. At a minimum, if it is from someone you know,
verify that they sent it and what it is. While not foolproof, it builds
confidence that we really won't blow the thing up with the wrong keystroke.
Then, as somebody gets adventuresome, save that file, scan it, and if it
clears, open it if you decide to. Even then, there's that chance that the
offending file won't be caught by the antivirus.

I'm not criticizing your response at all. Just explaining the approach I
would take with a person very new to computers. There are many ways to do
the same thing always.

Greg

-----Original Message----- From: Madison Espinoza
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Opening Attachments in Windows Mail

I'm recalling this now, and I think you gave what I believe is the correct
answer, which is press shift tab from within the body of a message to be
placed on any attachment. The person must first save the attached file to
their hard drive, so to do this press the windows applications key and use
that menu. I'm suggesting to first save the file in order to then scan it
for viruses. Many viruses try to get the receiver of an email message to
open the attachment and it ends up being a virus. This is why I suggest she
first saves then scans the file. If using MSE you need only focus on the
file, press the windows applications key then down arrow to scan with
Microsoft Security Essentials.

Hopefully someone with WLM will chime in and suggest a faster technique as
this might be asking lots for a new computer user.

-M
W7HP32bit

----- Original Message ----- From: "dgcnc" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Opening Attachments in Windows Mail


M, I am understanding that he wants to Open an attachment. Not Save it. If
I am wrong, maybe he will clarify for us.

Greg

-----Original Message----- From: Madison Espinoza
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Opening Attachments in Windows Mail

HI Steve,

I have a strong suspicion you are not describing the problem correctly. :)
This is my issue with third person trouble shooting. Is she using windows
mail or windows live mail. Its important you post correct information or
else there is lots of confusion and unnecessary posts as we're now seeing.

If someone out there would like to help out, please launch WLM and go to
the
file menu and look for a save attachments option.

-M
W7HP32bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Boodram" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Opening Attachments in Windows Mail


I tried that but she is not finding any such menu.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Madison Espinoza" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Opening Attachments in Windows Mail


HI Steve,

Call or email your friend and tell her that in jaws she can either press
insert + A or simply use the file menu as it has a save attachments
option.

-M
W7HP32bit

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Boodram" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Opening Attachments in Windows Mail


Hello friends;
asking on behalf of a good friend of mine who needs some assistance in
opening atachments in Windows Mail.

Could someone pleas offer some assistance.

This friend of mine is afraid to install anything on her machine or
make any
modifications.

Please provide step-by-step guidance.

I tried figuring out its use on my laptop runningg same but also can't
seem
to find out how to do it.

Thanks in advance.
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