If Android phones are catching up with the Apple models, great!  I’m all for 
improvement on both.

To me, it is logical that there would be troubleshooting difficulties if the 
code were open source because of the vast changes that someone other than the 
original developer has made, and you call the originator of the program for 
help.  As I have been told by developers, this is one main reason that they 
have produced for the Apple platform.  In a lot of ways, a closed environment 
is better, and it is also safer from viruses and hacks.  Also, an app from the 
app store will work on most, if not all, iPhones or iPads and iPods as long as 
they use a 64 bit processor.  One app works on them all, with some exceptions 
that are exclusively for iPads.


If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!

From: Tyler Wood 
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 11:26 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates

There is a lot of falsehood going around as far as android goes.

Yes, it has its problems. So does apple – especially with this new iOS 11 
build. Victor is on the eyes free list addressing the list at large and is part 
of the talkback team, so android is climbing up the ladder and I’d say these 
days is on very equal ground with apple.

And, Charles, all someone has to do is make in app purchases. Make the game 
itself something like 10, 15 dollars. It does, after all contain 80 games (or 
adjust the price accordingly when different packs are released, e.g. blindfold 
cards).

This is just my thoughts, though. Apparently I’m in the minority on this.

We should at the very least be trying to find a compromise rather than throwing 
blame everywhere.

From: Charles Rivard
Sent: November 9, 2017 9:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates

 

I base what I’ve said on what game developers, who I figure have researched to 
find the best market for their apps, have found.

 


If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!

 

From: Josh Kennedy 

Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 8:57 AM

To: [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates

 

are you sure about that? because the eyes-free android list has huge amounts of 
list traffic on it from many different people, all blind, all using android, 
all using talkback or some variation of talkback. Are you on the eyes-free 
list? android is excellent and getting better all the time. Whoever told you 
android is a tiny market has misinformed you unfortunately I think. It's true 
back in 2009 through 2012 android was still getting its footing so to speak. 
But now android and IOS are quite close as far as their accessibility features. 
As of the latest talkback beta, talkback can label buttons automatically for 
you most of the time. It has verbosity options similar to jaws, different 
reading modes like those in voiceover, and very good web support. With the 
latest brailleback app we now have grade2 braille input. If blindfold games 
were open sourced, other developers could help the main developer work on the 
android versions. and talkback also works good with my RCA galileo pro android 
6.0 tablet with physical keyboard, thanks to talkbacks many customiseable 
keyboard shortcuts. 



 

On 11/9/2017 05:25, john wrote:

  Josh:

  It almost certainly would not be worth it. In the blind community, it seems 
that Android is actually only used by a small, if very loyal, group of people. 
I'll say this platform loyalty transfers into double sales, but even so, 
5%*2=10% of original sales figures. That's not worth it.

   

  From: Josh Kennedy 

  Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 22:29

  To: [email protected] 

  Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates

   

  yes it would take time. but would be worth it i think. 



   

  On 11/8/2017 21:49, Liam Erven wrote:

    Josh. You realize all of his games would have to be rewritten from the 
ground up right?

    It’s not exactly a rainy day project.

     

     

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    From: Josh Kennedy
    Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:46 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates

     

    just switch to google play store so we android users can have more games 
please. thanks. and a new talkback just came out recently 6.0 beta. it works 
very good. 



     

    On 11/8/2017 20:37, Liam Erven wrote:

      It’s unfortunate, but I’ve talked to some other developpers who have had 
the same issues.

      Mainly developpers who are designing apps as 3rd parties get hit by this.

      I will certainly write and Call Apple though. Maybe enough people can 
give you some sort of free pass, though I doubt it.

       

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      From: Joe Quinn
      Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 7:28 PM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates

       

      What does this mean for the end-user? Will we still be able to do in app  
purchases?

      Sent from my iPhone


      On Nov 8, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Marty Schultz <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        I just finished talking with an Apple representative, and Apple’s 
decision is that unless I merge the 80 Blindfold Games into a handful of apps, 
they will no longer allow new games to be released or allow updates to be make.

        From a technology perspective, that’s extremely hard and 
time-consuming.  From a business perspective, that would mean spending hundreds 
of hours recoding the games, with no possible return-on-investment.  Most of 
the games generate sales in the first three months of the game being released, 
and I’ve been building these games for 4 years.

        From a usability perspective, that means the main menus would be 
ridiculously complex, and the settings screens would be confusing and almost 
unusable.

        If you are unhappy with this decision, you can express your opinion to 
Apple.  The accessibility desk is at [email protected] or you can call 
1-800-MY-APPLE.  Thanks to everyone for enjoying my games.

       

     

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