I hear you, Jude. I'd use a combo of NVDA and Narrator, with NVDA being primary, if I used Windows myself. But Nexus is the only mud client that works at all with speech and-or braille on Android without sideloading something like Tintin. And I just don't feel comfortable doing that. On Jan 4, 2024 8:32 AM, Jude DaShiell <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's why I don't use windows and don't play nexus. Even with > screenreader partial solutions on windows sites use proprietary controls > and since they're not standard controls no screenreader solution for > windows will ever be anything but partial. I had to use windows at work > for 18 years the first year was used just to find out how jaws worked on > windows and the other 17 years were a waste. I was using windows at work > before narrator was released too. The only good thing I can write about > windows 3.1 is when it crashed you could delete c:\windows and everything > below it and get a talking computer back until it could be reinstalled. > Microsoft messed that up by putting windows stuff all over the hard drive > with release of Windows 95. I promised myself if I lived long enough to > retire I would use linux and that's how it has since turned out. > Originally was given a laptop with windows on it after retirement and > updates went fine until service pack 3 and the laptop went belly up. So > tried installing linux on it and that didn't work so the laptop got > trashed and I got a computer and got linux on it and went from there. > When I was working windows and referbished nmci computers had to be > supported by help desk personnel just to keep operating and me being on > retirement I'm too remote for a help desk and haven't got the money to pay > for a help desk or jaws updates either. If I had to use windows I'd > install nvda and make some donations rather than install jaws to keep my > expenses down. I have no state aid here and don't expect it either. > > > -- > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. > Please use in that order." > Ed Howdershelt 1940. > > On Wed, 3 Jan 2024, Heather Seaman wrote: > > > That's the closest I can come to what you're trying to do. I can't seem to > > get the logging function in Nexus to work consistently and haven't found it > > all that useful anyway, but when I could get it to function it recorded > > every interaction, with timestamps. Even when I tried to turn those off. > > But in Nexus, some of the controls are apparently just there on the screen, > > rather than in menus, and those ones are completely invisible to the screen > > reader; you don't even get a generic "button" or "graphic" to indicate that > > you might be on the logggging or music volume or some other unlabeled > > button. And the documentation was written for the desktop version of the > > program, not the mobile app, so it's hit or miss whether I can turn the > > logging function on. When I turned off timestamps in the menu, that > > apparently turned off logging entirely. Anyway, hope you can set something > > up. Let us know how it works out for you. I can certainly see its appeal. > > On Jan 3, 2024 7:41 PM, Jude DaShiell <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > tintin definitely has a log command that can be used inside tintin to > > > capture mud sessions. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. > > > Please use in that order." > > > Ed Howdershelt 1940. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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