hi

Think he meant it was only coming out, raceway i mean, to those who 
pre-ordered
will

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: audyssey: mouse targeting demo and other things


> Who told you that Raceway is not coming out??  Let us know your source of
> information so that we can verify this.  The last I heard, and this was 
> from
> James North who is the creator of Raceway, it is still being worked on.
> Secondly, the word is spelled, and please remember this??  s u r r o u n 
> d.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 10:52 PM
> Subject: RE: audyssey: mouse targeting demo and other things
>
>
>> <grin>
>> I have speakers to but not siround  speakers.
>> I don't have the space.
>> I like stereo headphones myself.
>> The really good ones have some sort of 3d system in them.
>> But they are still analog.
>> shame raceway aint comming out.
>> Would have really wanted it.
>> Oh well.
>>
>> 05:39 p.m. 17/12/2005, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi, Niko.
>>>
>>>Surround sound isn't something you really turn on or off.  You can set
>>>your
>>>speaker configuration in the control panel.  I routinely blared lots of
>>>things through our house while I was growing up. *grin*  But, then again,
>>>you'd never find me playing games wearing headphones.  It'd be like a
>>>total
>>>A.M. experience!
>>>
>>>- James
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>Behalf Of Niko C
>>>Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 8:02 PM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: audyssey: mouse targeting demo
>>>
>>>Hi, two things, first, when I went to the sight and clicked download, it
>>>said that Firefox couldn't find the server.
>>>ALso, I'm not to for the suround sound deal. Its a good feature but it
>>>should have the ability to be turned off. Face it, if you live with your
>>>parents, they don't want to hear that blaring through the house. You
>>>should
>>>also be able to use headphones.
>>>But I am all for the mouse. Its much better and people are afraid because
>>>they've never seen a mouse before? Hmm, I think we need to try new things
>>>and this is definitely a faster method of navigation.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:40 PM
>>>Subject: Re: audyssey: mouse targeting demo
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi, Kevin.
>>>Seeing as I am also  a developer I know that the ITT market almost
>>>always targets the medium to high range PCs, and leaves lower end PCs in
>>>the dust. There are several reasons for doing so, but the short answer
>>>is that when the product is done we expect that computers will have been
>>>upgraded, or those buying new PCs will be already getting the system
>>>requirements.
>>>Sometimes the system requirements are a inexpensive upgrade like a
>>>better sound card and speakers. I know for example the Soundblaster Live
>>>can be had between $30 and $45. Speakers depends on how much the person
>>>is willing to spend but usually ranges from $50 to $100.
>>>If the developer targets the low end PCs to have universal compatibility
>>>what ends up happening is while all PCs may be able to run the app the
>>>end users aren't buying a product as good as it could be, and the
>>>product does not take advantage of the newer PCs. It also ends up
>>>cutting the application short of what it could really do on a better
>>>system.
>>>Like for example no one really expects Windows XP to be compiled for a
>>>486 processor. If it did it would run much slower on Pentium IV
>>>processors, have less graphics, etc.
>>>However, when compiled for a Pentium II processor it runs well on that
>>>kind of system and even better on better systems, because it can take
>>>advantage of the better processor speed, have more animated graphics,
>>>etc.  In short we don't want people to be cheated out of taking every
>>>advantage of the better and newer computers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> kevin and emma wrote:
>>>> not too mention the fact you can't expect software developers to design
>>>> their state of the art products to take into account the lowest spec pc
>>>> around. if they did windows 95 would still be supported for example.
>>>> hmm!
>>>> not sure that quite makes sense! grin. times move on!and no i don't 
>>>> have
>>>> a
>>>> surround system either as yet. but it's on the list of upgrades to make
>>>> on
>>>> this heap of microchips! *smile*
>>>> Kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list
>>>> contact me via email/msn:
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>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:57 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: mouse targeting demo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Alex.
>>>>> Just because a game uses 3D audio, and you don't have a sound card and
>>>>> speakers which supports it won't prevent you from playing the game.
>>>>> However, you will have a less ritcher experience.
>>>>> Let me give you an example. If there is an enemy to your North-West. 
>>>>> On
>>>>> a 5.1 3D setup you would hear it in your Left forward speaker. On a
>>>>> standard stereo setup you will hear it out of your left speaker. So 
>>>>> you
>>>>> will be able to figure out if the enemy is left or right, but not be
>>>>> able to ttell if it is front or behind you.
>>>>> With a good 3D virtual environment you will be able to hear sounds
>>>>> front, back, left, and right. On a stereo setup all you can hope for 
>>>>> is
>>>>> left and right.
>>>>> One thing that will help in a full game is having a targeting cue like
>>>>> a
>>>>> beep which is in SOD 1.2 which allows you to shoot the targets.
>>>>> As far as developers coming up with two versions that is honestly not
>>>>> cost effective. Simulating a virtual 3D environment is the way of the
>>>>> future. Those who want to stick with the trends need to invest in
>>>>> hardware that is compatible.
>>>>> You can have yourself a cheep 3D setup for just over $100 with a SB
>>>>> Live
>>>>> Value card and some Creative Labs 4.1 speakers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> alex wallis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi list.
>>>>>> Ok first off i like the idea of using the mouse as a way of targeting
>>>>>>
>>>> that's a cool idea.
>>>>
>>>>>> However i do think that it shouldn't be assumed that everyone has a
>>>>>>
>>>> surround sound system on there pcs especially those with older pcs.
>>>>
>>>>>> I for example have a fairly knew pc but it doesn't have surround 
>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>
>>>> the same is true of my laptop.
>>>>
>>>>>> It is for this reason that i think there should either be 2 versions
>>>>>> one
>>>>>>
>>>> for sterio and one for surround sound users or the game should have 2
>>>modes
>>>> one sterio and one surround sound.
>>>>
>>>>>> I do though really like the concept.
>>>>>> Just my thoughts.
>>>>>> Alex.
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