Cool, then it sounds like you going to like my ShadowBeam web site that I plan to launch in 2006.
I am looking at a flash builder and the program is very accessible. The bad thing about flash players is the people don't make them accessible. So far what I just seen from there web site made me going to have to try the demo out. I have try many audio program builders and this also does many other stuff like menus. Just on their web site many button are labeled so you know what the heck there. So, you got to figure figure the templets that can be created are going to be accessible. Only fault I see is the help online. Not being accessible is not the problem just the layout. Moving back to gaming, having this tool and a few other things I am looking at ShadowBeam looks like it could have audio trivia from books to music and any other audio that be a trivia question.. Yes the other tool I am look at will me to do things I have been hoping to do on a web site. Be able to have the blind community descripe movies and TV shows. Suprising to me I found a great deal for Powerpoint for under hundred bucks and Powerpoint will help in this effect.. So, what one piece of software can do one thing it can do others things as from trivia to gather info about a vidio clip. In fact I am hoping what I have now will be the anser to my Dark Shadow Door ways anser. Another project of mine where once enter a person can find links to Dark Shadow web site and a interactive game. Smiles I am not just doing Strat Sports stuff but do have thing I like to bring to alive for the blind community and thanks to you James and other who do find the time to do as much. As Al Bundy says "Lets Rock!". ----- Original Message ----- From: "James from Alchemy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: RE: you? don't? know?? - Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming? > > Actually, haven't listened to much Dead.. more of a Stevie Ray Vaughan > kinda > guy when I play, but listen to stuff like Disturbed, God Smack, classic > rock, metal, some soul and pop, too.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of FigureInTheCloak > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: you? don't? know?? - Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming? > > Hey! Cool Idea! Somebody go for it! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Whittington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:20 PM > Subject: Re: you? don't? know?? - Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming? > > >> James being from (Califonia) he is probley a Grateful Dead fan, and >> making >> him a Dead head more then I. >> >> You know that music that goes on and on as video music does. I wonder if >> anybody has put Dead music in games or something like that brand of acid >> Rock. That wold be a cool game. >> >> Having Acid rock musi and one would have to pick up little tabs, fight >> with >> little Mary Jane creatures, hits of a bong for for energy then go for to >> search for moon pies, then having to beat the Large White Rabbit to get >> the >> next high level. >> >> New thats a game I would what a pair of Dead sets. >> >> And when you do die the music could be: >> "Mama told me not to come". >> >> It could as wwell be a anti drug game, where you are avoiding drug >> dealers, >> avoiding horse needles, trying to stay out of the cops hair, while trying >> to >> save a friend from the dragnet. Having the game set in the past so there >> be >> a great collect of music and different levels would have the music change >> for that level while the year changes. Using different events of that >> year >> could give one missions to complete. >> >> using music from the past in games I think is a great idea. To get >> around >> copyrights, would not have the music of certain songs playing through, >> but >> using small clips and awkknowledgements for songs and a place to get the >> music say like Amazon, game could use up to thirty seconds of a certain >> title. So in a game that set in a period of time, the player would hear >> songs from say radios, car speakers and many other locations. The music >> clip could even be a hint. >> Lets say the song was: >> "Tears of a Clown". >> Then the player may need to find a circus. Of corse the cclues could be >> much harder, but you get the point. >> Let say one level is 1963 and your mission could to be to save Kennedy. >> >> Well, thanks Charles, what you did, you got me to using my brain to storm >> up >> new ideas. I guess I still a few living cells between my old Rock n Roll >> eyes. So you in the Chat room for todays chat session on the >> For-the-People.com >> >> Who knows maybe that beach bum James will poke his Dead head in. >> >> Hmmm. Surfing game with music.... O yeah wax up my board What another >> idea. This game must be a head to head game at least played over the >> net. >> >> If anybody has gotten this far, I myself in the middle of my draft in the >> 1936 season of the baseball league and some one has taken my top pick for >> the Chicago Cubs from me. So I will be as well talking about Strat >> Baseball >> in today's chat if want to hear more then just pipe up. Whoa now thats >> the >> name for the game above. >> "Pipe up" or the anti-drug game is "Pipe down". and for the other one >> could >> be "Pipe to the Past".. >> Today is Jan 14 2005 and I hold the rights to theses name.. >> >> Pwew, must be something in the water here besides the arsenal here in New >> Mexico, where cowboys still love guns, pickups hard licker and women >> with >> tall hair. Its not the Old wWest, but its Wild. >> >> Crash >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 7:17 PM >> Subject: you? don't? know?? - Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming? >> >> >>> Yes. A deadset. Don't tell me! You don't know what a deadset is?? >>> It's >>> a >>> headset designed for those with empty space between the ears. I figured >>> that you, if anyone, would know what you should own. (ornery grin). >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Gary Whittington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming? >>> >>> >>>>A dead set? >>>> >>>> Whoa must save this email >>>> >>>> Crash >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:16 PM >>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming? >>>> >>>> >>>>>9 pm Eastern, 8 central. I hope you can locate a deadset. It would be >>>>> interesting to have you join, and you are more than welcome. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "James from Alchemy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:26 PM >>>>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Where is the flaming? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll shoot you off an e-mail. 9:00 pacific standard time? If I can >>>>>> find >>>>>> a >>>>>> headset that works, I might give it a shot. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Ron Schamerhorn >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:24 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi James >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd also like to contact you offlist if you wouldn't mind. The chat >>>>>> starts at 9:00 or there about on >>>>>> WWW.for-the-people.com >>>>>> I doubt i'll be showing this evening. Though if yif you would like >>>>>> to >>>>>> get >>>>>> in touch it's >>>>>> >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope to hear from you >>>>>> Ron Schamerhorn >>>>>> Audyssey Editor >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN only >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: James from Alchemy >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:53 PM >>>>>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Where is the flaming? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What time is the game chat? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Gary Whittington >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:48 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ekekekeke >>>>>> >>>>>> Guess we have a nice topic for game chat tonight. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some ears going to be ringing tonight. LOl >>>>>> >>>>>> Crash >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 1:36 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Send something to Kevin off list as he has asked, voicing your >>>>>>> opinion. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> hope every list member sends him something, whether it be on the >>>>>>> side >>>>>>> for, >>>>>>> or against, Brenda's behavior. To me, the worst thing she did was >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> post >>>>>>> portions of, or entire, off list Emails to the list, making them no >>>>>>> longer >>>>>>> private. Unexcusable. I have sent Kevin a private Email, and have >>>>>>> also >>>>>>> sent Brenda a copy of my thoughts on how she has been handling this >>>>>>> situation, and have also made my feelings known as to what should be >>>>>>> done >>>>>>> and why. Again, I hope that all list members take part in shaping >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> list >>>>>>> in the future. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Gary Whittington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:46 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Got to say that was not fair. With mods reminding us to take >>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>> list then posting it as though it was not a private conversation. >>>>>>>> Now >>>>>>>> wlhy >>>>>>>> would anybody take it off line to have some thing maybe taken out >>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>> contents. A person would nick pick and reword the email to fit >>>>>>>> thier >>>>>>>> agenda. >>>>>>>> I myself find anything new or even justifying in the email to have >>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> thing to be done. IN fact if there was any justifying reason to do >>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> act no one sould do it. no one asked to see the private messages >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> doing >>>>>>>> some thing like is not knocking a person character but the one who >>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>> the public posting. We all don't like public flogging and thats >>>>>>>> whatit >>>>>>>> looked like and a a ploy for more flogging and ridecue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The action and reaction of this is going not help the moderation >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> list when a mod ask a person to take it of list and they want to >>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> email member to talk to them privately, how can one trust a mod to >>>>>>>> keep >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> private between them. It certaining looks like a mistake, if one >>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>> caught up in the moment and a retracktion is is the best thing all >>>>>>>> around. >>>>>>>> When I read the post I felt dirty. So, as others I am sure, not to >>>>>>>> mention >>>>>>>> James who's trust was broken in thinking that emailing a moderator, >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> break this common sense trust. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am only trying to be fair and truthfull here and not wanting to >>>>>>>> stir >>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>> anything up. This email group for me gets my most email in my box >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> yes, >>>>>>>> its a tough enough job to mod it as I see it in my email box. For >>>>>>>> us >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> list we don't see what gets through for this and that, and I am >>>>>>>> happy >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> it. But do we going to need a Mod for the moderators. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, since this email has to about flaming and flogging, I have done >>>>>>>> so. >>>>>>>> Not >>>>>>>> on anybody but on a matter that is very important and that is >>>>>>>> posting >>>>>>>> private messages to a public form. The list has rules now and >>>>>>>> maybe >>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>> to the members now to look at making rules for the Moderators. >>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>> email >>>>>>>> may spawn off other threads, well so be it, maybe all this will >>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> list even better in the long run I took some time off before >>>>>>>> writting >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> email, and that may have been the right choice for me and for those >>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>> get caught up in something and later wishes they had not. This >>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>> certainly has people who cares and thats great. WE have a passion >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> games >>>>>>>> and that is the heart of this email list. We want this email to be >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>> as it can be and once awhile the passion blinds us in what we are >>>>>>>> doing, >>>>>>>> being good or bad. So, when we all can try to remember, at times >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> sit >>>>>>>> back before going off and ask ourselves will this hurt or be >>>>>>>> helpful. >>>>>>>> For >>>>>>>> the email list I hope this does help and for this old wind bag, I >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> said >>>>>>>> my peace and want to get back to learning about games. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Crash >>>>>>>> God Bliss >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Jennifer North" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 1:18 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Where is the flaming? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You, as a moderator, should know that this point will only bring >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> discussion back up even as it's been dealt with effectively by >>>>>>>>> Kevin. >>>>>>>>> What >>>>>>>>> do you need now? Vindication? Do I bring this issue to my >>>>>>>>> website >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> an all-out war? You brought off-list correspondence on-list. >>>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>>> well-known that you often act towards members in ways that would >>>>>>>>> normally >>>>>>>>> get others in trouble or on moderated status. Is there a >>>>>>>>> double-standard? >>>>>>>>> I believe so. Others believe so. That's just my opinion based on >>>>>>>>> past >>>>>>>>> flare ups you've had with other members (who shall not be >>>>>>>>> mentioned, >>>>>>>>> nor >>>>>>>>> their private e-mails fanned out here in a public forum). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As many people have definite opinions of you as they do of me. >>>>>>>>> Thought >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> thread was dead? On one hand, you say that you refuse to respond, >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>> you're bringing it back up. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't see what's so hard to see about the thread being snide, >>>>>>>>> facetious, >>>>>>>>> and sarcastic. To what standard can the members be held >>>>>>>>> accountable >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>> you, as a moderator, do not adhere to the same standard? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let it go and move on.. get some therapy.. whatever, but you know, >>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> can't even e-mail a moderator privately without you shoveling it >>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>> the list publicly, then screw it. I don't know what kind of >>>>>>>>> medication, >>>>>>>>> affliction, or condition you either have or need to have, but this >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> getting old. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Drop it already.. if you need to have the last word, then have >>>>>>>>> it.. >>>>>>>>> then, >>>>>>>>> let's let it go.. and, please, everyone else not respond to her >>>>>>>>> last >>>>>>>>> word.. >>>>>>>>> time to move! on! folks!.. as, Mr. Rivard would say. *grin* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of brenda green >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:41 PM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: audyssey: Where is the flaming? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Something to think about, no responses needed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> First I would like to apologize to Kevin who has taken the brunt >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> thread since I've been working. Yes, I do have a life away from >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> I do have a job and a family. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am I to take it as an owner/moderator of this list I'm not >>>>>>>>> entitled >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> opinion? I really don't know how this thread went from >>>>>>>>> clarification >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> whether "orders" or "pre-orders" were being taken for Monty to >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> ended up. I stated that I'd wait until the game was released and >>>>>>>>> stated >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> fact for my decision. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The following are messages between James North and myself, some of >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> were sent privately. I'd just like to know where the flaming is. I >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> never, on or off the list, reverted to insults or namecalling. I >>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>> state >>>>>>>>> the fact, ask unwelcome questions, and occasionally give my >>>>>>>>> opinion. >>>>>>>>> There's >>>>>>>>> also a couple of messages from other list members who shall remain >>>>>>>>> nameless >>>>>>>>> unless they choose to admit to them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's right James, who needs that extra $15. Given your record >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> pre-ordering, I'm surprised you'd even offer it as a pre-order. >>>>>>>>> "raceway" >>>>>>>>> was offered for pre-order in 2001 and is still not available to >>>>>>>>> those >>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>> paid good cash for it. Monty was "shipping" November 2003 and >>>>>>>>> recalled. >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> don't know of anybody that actually got the game. Now, more than a >>>>>>>>> year >>>>>>>>> later, you're offering Monty for pre-order? I for one, will wait >>>>>>>>> until >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> actually released to take a look at it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh, and that old adage.. if you have nothing nice to say.. I don't >>>>>>>>> recall >>>>>>>>> anyone twisting YOUR arm. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's correct, Brenda. And, I also didn't possess "Raceway" for >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> entire >>>>>>>>> year. However, I essentially donated four years of my life doing >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> community a favor. If you don't want to pre-order, then simply >>>>>>>>> don't. >>>>>>>>> Your >>>>>>>>> innuendos aren't necessary. In fact, let me do you a favor in the >>>>>>>>> spirit >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> your natural disposition. I won't sell it to you, even after it's >>>>>>>>> released--very soon, by the way--I'll, in your name, raise the >>>>>>>>> price >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> $49.95. So, if anyone wants to pre-order it, they'd better get >>>>>>>>> busy. >>>>>>>>> Ain't >>>>>>>>> that right, Brenda? *smile* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: James North >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cc: 'Jennifer North' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Post & Status >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Brenda, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am I to assume that my response to your inflammatory post on the >>>>>>>>> BG >>>>>>>>> List >>>>>>>>> will not be going through since only the last post of mine did? I >>>>>>>>> assume >>>>>>>>> you made a quick maneuver after posting yours and then put me back >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> moderated status as my posts have been coming through regularly >>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>> quickly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: brenda green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> To: James North >>>>>>>>> Cc: 'Jennifer North' >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Post & Status >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No James, I did not put you on moderated status. Furthermore, I >>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> intend on doing that. If you step over the line, you will be dealt >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> same as any other member of the list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My post only stated facts and if you take it as flaming then >>>>>>>>> perhaps >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> need to consider what was said. You and I both know those facts >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> true. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Brenda Green >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: James North >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To: 'brenda green' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Post & Status >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Brenda, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What I know was you went from toning Will down and saying, "Let's >>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> happens.." and, basically, that I have a track record of coming >>>>>>>>> through-albeit, often at the last minute-and, then the snide >>>>>>>>> remark >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> pre-ordering and then again tonight. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't expect special treatment, so that's the last time you need >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> imply >>>>>>>>> that. Honestly, whether I'm on the list or not is >>>>>>>>> inconsequential. >>>>>>>>> As >>>>>>>>> soon >>>>>>>>> as I post an update to my customer base, it's on the list, anyway. >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> eight hundred other people to send updates to. The benefit of me >>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> the list is that people can ask me questions directly. That's why >>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>> there. But, if that privilege is abused, then I'll unsubscribe >>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>> That's not being arrogant or a threat, but keeping up on the list >>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>> time out of my day. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As far as Monty, I really don't want to air my own personal >>>>>>>>> business >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> 2004 was like, but I'll bet money that you'd be hard pressed to >>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> my customer's who have had as much on their plate while trying to >>>>>>>>> maintain >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> regular job and still work on these games for you guys. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I know what the facts are-they're in black and white in the posts. >>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>> anyone's in doubt, they can back track through the thread and then >>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>> will, too. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm sure there are probably a lot of people who would care less if >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> didn't >>>>>>>>> keep working on the games and disappeared, but there are also a >>>>>>>>> lot >>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>> depend on it on a few different levels. And, I do have a track >>>>>>>>> record >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> if delays can't be taken into consideration based on not only the >>>>>>>>> games >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> have written and released, not to mention inspiring others to >>>>>>>>> follow >>>>>>>>> suit, >>>>>>>>> then I really don't know what to tell them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I re-subscribed to be more available to the community. If you >>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>> to get into a pissing match with me for whatever animosity you >>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>> seem >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> have from whatever a few years ago, then just say so or if I'm put >>>>>>>>> back >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> moderated status, say so. And, I'll unsubscribe. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It really, truly, and honestly makes no difference to me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At this point, I refused to responp further, both on and off the >>>>>>>>> list, >>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>> the next post shows. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: brenda green >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Montezuma's Revenge Orders >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> James, I have a question for you. This question does not apply to >>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>> since >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> have not pre-ordered Raceway and you refuse to sell me Monty. >>>>>>>>> Somebody >>>>>>>>> asked >>>>>>>>> me and I'm referring the question to you since you now have the >>>>>>>>> rights >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> both games. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Before I ask the question though, perhaps you can clarify one >>>>>>>>> point >>>>>>>>> please. >>>>>>>>> During the year or so when AdoraEntertainment owned Raceway they >>>>>>>>> refused >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> take pre-orders. All pre-orders were placed with you, it this true >>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>> false? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm asking you this question on the list because I don't have the >>>>>>>>> answer >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> others on the list may be interested in the answer as well as the >>>>>>>>> person >>>>>>>>> that asked me. If a person has pre-ordered Raceway from you and >>>>>>>>> they'd >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> to get Monty, can they change their order since the same company >>>>>>>>> owns >>>>>>>>> both >>>>>>>>> games? If there's a price difference, can they pay the difference >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>> Monty instead of Raceway? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Brenda Green >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, Brenda. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's correct. All pre-orders for Raceway were placed with me >>>>>>>>> except >>>>>>>>> during the period that Adora owned the game for which they took no >>>>>>>>> pre-orders. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Converting a Raceway order to a Monty order would be fine. If >>>>>>>>> anyone's >>>>>>>>> interested, e-mail >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - James >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've removed headers, names and signatures from the following two >>>>>>>>> messages. >>>>>>>>> If the senders whis to make themselves known, they can do so >>>>>>>>> themselves. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: personal opinion >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is well known that Brenda does not get along with James North. >>>>>>>>> Open >>>>>>>>> hostility has been shown by her posts to the list. Should someone >>>>>>>>> who, >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> fairly regular basis, does not follow the list guidelines by >>>>>>>>> showing >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> open hostility, be a moderator? In my opinion, no. At least, her >>>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>>> messages should be moderated by the list owner. If she cannot at >>>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>> follow the guidelines, she should be replaced as a moderator. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To: "brenda green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Montezuma's Revenge Orders >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Brenda, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm just writing you off list to say that I think that it is a >>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>> that you bring up Mr North's pre-order record whenever he makes >>>>>>>>> known >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> he is looking for them. I think of your messages as a public >>>>>>>>> service >>>>>>>>> message to new comers and I'm glad that you do them as it seems >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> not post any sort of negative message about Mr North, his games or >>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>> previous pre-order record to the list without occurring the wrath >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> moderator, others and Mr North himself no matter how non flaming >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> factual >>>>>>>>> the message may be. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Several of you may be interested in this bit of news. I have, for >>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>> time, >>>>>>>>> been seriously considering leaving the list both as an >>>>>>>>> owner/moderator >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> member. The last couple of days does not influence my decision. It >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> probably happen some time during late 2006. 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