hi

did your court hearing go ok?
regards, will

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James from Alchemy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:48 PM
Subject: RE: audyssey: Recent Events


>
> Hi, Josh.
>
> As always, well put!  I, too, hope that Kevin won't step down as 
> moderator.
> I cannot speak the same of Brenda, but I think I've gone there enough.
>
> Also, a good point about developers being bitched at whether or not it's
> because of pre-orders.  I can remember having every single title out and
> still getting harassed for one reason or another and, you know how it is,
> whoever's doing it wants it "RIGHT NOW! FOR ME!"
>
> It's downright exhausting.
>
> And, for the record folks, I'm not unsubscribing from the list in the 
> spirit
> of, "Fine then!  I'll just take my marbles and go home!"  Not at all. 
> But,
> in the interest of keeping things sane and really focusing on the games 
> that
> Alchemy develops, it's only obvious to concentrate and spend time on the
> Alchemy-hosted lists and do away with all the extraneous bickering and
> vendettas and such.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:29 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: audyssey: Recent Events
>
> Hello all,
>
> Disclaimer: The views in this e-mail are the opinions of Josh de 
> Lioncourt,
> and do not reflect
> the views of Draconis Entertainment or any of its divisions or staff as a
> whole or individually.
>
> I would just like to make a few observations.  Much, maybe even most, of
> what I am going
> to say has been covered fragmentarily in many posts and by many
> contributors.  However,
> we may have reached a crossroad with this community, and I hope to see the
> list and
> associated community activities move forward down a beneficial path, 
> rather
> than watch
> them slowly self-destruct.
>
> First, as another developer, the flaming and bashing that James North has
> had to put up
> with in recent weeks is not only tiresome to read, but childish and 
> immature
> as well.
>
> When I worked for Adora, I had to contend with the same exact sort of
> behavior from the
> exact same sources, and Adora had never taken pre-orders for anything.  I
> endured
> personal attacks, flames, and all sorts of other nonsense.  While it 
> wasn't
> quite on the scale
> of what James has put up with, it was quite disheartening to deal with.
>
> This is why I am not an active member of this community these days.
> Draconis has a new
> game that will be released very soon, and we have made no public
> announcements about it.
> gee, I wonder why that might be.  I seldom if ever contribute to 
> discussions
> on this list,
> though I do try to keep abreast of developments in the community.
>
> There are a handful of members who get the masses riled up.  I suspect 
> that
> many of those
> who spout off are doing so in response to these handful, and wouldn't
> normally have been
> so venomous on their own.  And yet, these few continue to cause trouble 
> just
> for the sake of
> it.
>
> Like so many others in the VI community at large, these few, and I suspect
> some others who
> are less vocal about it, feel that *quote* "Oh, I'm blind.  The world owes
> me.  everyone's out
> to get me.  I've gotta be an ass because whether they show it or not,
> they're out to get me."
> *end_quote*
>
> Granted, that's an exaggeration in most cases, but that doesn't nullify 
> the
> fact that the basic
> mentality is out there.  It certainly isn't all blind and visually 
> impaired
> people.  Gods know I
> hope it isn't the majority, being a blindee myself.  However, I do think 
> it
> is a much higher
> ratio than is healthy or appropriate.
>
> I hope Kevin does not step down as a moderator, and I hope that those of 
> you
> who have
> caused the problems over the years eventually grow up.
>
> Whether or not James has handled circumstances in his life well in regards
> to Alchemy is
> totally irrelivent.  There is no excuse for abusing any member of this 
> list,
> be they a
> developer or not.  Most of the opinions expressed against James and/or
> Alchemy could've
> been done so civilly and maturely.  Many were not, though.
>
> But before anyone says something to the effect of *quote* "Oh, James is 
> such
> a baby for
> leaving the list..." *end_quote* which I know many of the less mature
> members of this list
> are thinking, even if they've yet to voice such a thought, bare in mind 
> that
> James isn't the
> only developer who you've driven underground.
>
> And, let's be honest folks, how many developers do we see posting 
> regularly
> on this list?
> Phil Vlasak and Liam are the only two I can think of.  Anyone seen Philip 
> B.
> posting lately?
> How about David Greenwood?  Justin from BSC?  You might see the odd e-mail
> from these
> guys once in a while...but not often.  And I only post when I have 
> Draconis
> news to report.
> I've been around long enough to remember when there was a lot more
> discussion between
> gamers and developers.  These days, all I see is a lot of bickering,
> back-stabbing, and
> bitching.
>
> And, for the record, the vast majority of the world ends their week on
> Sunday.  It's only in
> the USA, (and maybe Canada, since a lot of goods are shipped into the
> Cannucks from the
> Yanks), that we've seen fit to idiotically start our week's on the 
> sabbath.
> As the world
> becomes a more globalized society, I think we'll see more streamlining of
> such things, and
> hopefully the Americans' need to be different, even if that means stupid,
> will slowly die out.
> For the record, I was born and bred in the United States, and I consider
> Sunday the last day
> of my week.
>
> So, here's hoping that the accessible game community, its games, and its
> members can all
> mature.  Here's hoping that Kevin stays on as moderator, and that those of
> you causing
> chaos and flame wars learn what truly is important in life.
>
>    Josh de Lioncourt
>
>
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