Hi, Shaun. Well, allot of that depends on copyright laws, and of course weather or not the company/individual renews the copyright. I don't know specifics, but I do know they can hang on to the copyright for many years after the software is dead and buried. I mean most Atari games ended up in the scrap heap, what remains is traded around for collecters. However, Activision has continued to renew those games in US copyrights, and have republished them in different ways. For example Activisions Asteroids 98 for Windows 98. They also had a new version of Missile Command a couple of years back, the new tv games that are out, etc... I am sure Nintendo is no different. Just because the original games are dead and gone that doesn't mean they will not continue to hold on to the copyrights and come out with new versions down the road.
shaun everiss wrote: > this actually brings up an interesting thing. > What age does a piece of software have to be after its stopped development, > or was based on old tech that does no longer exist. > Well what age does that software either just expire copywrite or the > copywrite does not apply anymore? > I have loads of e text books on my system, true most are from gutenberg, but > others some at least have notes about copywrite experations on them. > At 08:04 a.m. 31/01/2006, you wrote: > >> Downloading the roms off of a third party website, that is, off of copies >> that somebody has made of the game and made available for people to download >> for free would almost certainly violate whatever copyright/licensing deal >> Atari had going at the time because you are essentially getting a >> nonlicensed copy. When you buy a cartridge from someone they no longer have >> it so you are right there is nothing wrong with that. As I said this is >> pretty much an academic issue with these old systems, nobody is likely to >> come breaking your door down with a battering ram over it. So do whatever >> your conscience dictates. >> >> Tom >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of FigureInTheCloak >> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:39 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: audyssey: Atari >> >> >> Um, if you're buying a copy off someone or someone gives you their old copy >> of the rom, what would be illegal about that? The only thing I could see >> being illegal would be if someone burned you a copy, or burned copies and >> sold them. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:06 AM >> Subject: RE: audyssey: Atari >> >> >> >>> Hi Allan and all. >>> >>> I hope to hell I can get them back too, I cannot believe I did not >>> back those up somewhere! Arg! Chewing nails. As to the legality >>> well let me say this. Strictly speaking what is legal is that if you >>> have the actual cartridge in your possession then it is legal to have >>> copies of the roms however in practice I doubt if anyone is going to >>> much care. As many of these things that are floating around at yard >>> sales and thrift stores and whatnot there is no way anyone could tell >>> if you had it or you didn't. Having said that, I will also say though >>> that I too will not share any sources of roms publically on this list >>> because I feel it violates the spirit of the list. Just for >>> information, stella in and of itself is in no way illegal and yes feel >>> free to search it up and try it it is really cool. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> msn username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> skype username: lord_amexos >>> yahoo username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of allan thompson >>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 5:48 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: audyssey: Atari >>> >>> >>> Hey Tom, >>> I changed the subject line since the conversation changed. >>> I hope you can restock your atari games without loss. Can I ask you >>> were >>> you >>> >>> would get something like that and how accesible it might be. Is it >>> legal? thanks, allan >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Tom Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:34 PM >>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Monty, of course >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hey Allan, >>>> >>>> Yes the jaguar was two units, the main console which would play >>>> cartridges and the cd drive. There were comparatively few games >>>> released for the cd drive so if you don't get that it is not too >>>> critical. I am really not sure on prices because I have not check >>>> ebay and such in a long while. Btw was just checking some old >>>> backups and I appear to have lost all my stella stuff along with my >>>> archive of atari 2600 games, I had a couple hundred of them. >>>> Damnation! Fortunately a friend of mine has most of them I think so will >>>> have to try and get them back along with the new version of Stella. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> msn username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> skype username: lord_amexos >>>> yahoo username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> On Behalf Of allan thompson >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 2:43 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Monty, of course >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Tom, >>>> I vaguely remember the atari jaguar. Wasn't it two seperate game >>>> devices like Sega CD? How much does those things go for anyway, just >>>> for curiosity sake. allan >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Tom Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:57 PM >>>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Monty, of course >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hey Allan and all. >>>>> >>>>> As others have said you can pick these machines up at thrift stores >>>>> and yard sales and stuff like that usually for dirt cheap. As I >>>>> said in another message the only one I have not found for cheap for >>>>> a complete system is the >>>>> atari Jaguar which was their last system that was released in the early >>>>> 90's >>>>> and like a lot of atari stuff was way ahead of its time but poorly >>>>> advertised. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> msn username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> skype username: lord_amexos >>>>> yahoo username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> On Behalf Of allan thompson >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:24 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Monty, of course >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello Tom, >>>>> *gives secret atari brotherhood handshake* >>>>> Atari will rise again! >>>>> lol >>>>> It is good to hear some of those machines are still kicking. My >>>>> atari computer kicked the bucket in the late eighties and I grieved >>>>> over it. I can't seem to recall my atari call sign. I want to say it >>>>> was 7600? It was white and had this interesting feature where you >>>>> could create a virtual ram disk with it. I am probably wrong about >>>>> the number, I also owned the >>>>> advanced atari game machine with the controllers that had a number pad >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>> side fire buttons made of soft rubber, and a joystick. I remember >>>>> playing galaxians and star raiders on it. Oh and pac man. I can't >>>>> remember any others. It all starts to run together after a while. >>>>> keep gaming, allan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Tom Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:14 PM >>>>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Monty, of course >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Allan and all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ah, another Atari Freak! Hail brother! I remember all those >>>>>> titles too, in fact I still have several working atari systems here >>>>>> and have some of them on good old 5.25" floppy disks and tapes >>>>>> although I avoid the tapes like >>>>>> the >>>>>> plague whenever possible. Not sure if I have the original Montezuma >>>>>> game >>>>>> or >>>>>> not, may have to hook one of the old beasts up and see. It is amazing >>>>>> how >>>>>> many of those old games we can play, true not as well as a sighted >>>>>> guy/gal >>>>>> but we could learn them because the sounds actually meant something. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> msn username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> skype username: lord_amexos >>>>>> yahoo username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> On Behalf Of allan thompson >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:03 AM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: audyssey: Monty, of course >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello,I remember playing several old atari computer games in the >>>>>> old days. My friends and I would have to load the program into the >>>>>> olde timey atari 800 with a cassette loader. Any little bump or >>>>>> movement in the load would crash the load and we would have to >>>>>> start it again. So basically you had a bunch of kids being very >>>>>> still and quiet for ten to twenty minutes, and then a flurry of >>>>>> fisticuffs for the wico joystick when the game was ready to >>>>>> play..lol Man, we used to play blue max, shamus, this very cool >>>>>> game called age of discovery, and the classic lode runner. I seem >>>>>> to recall playing monty's revenge as well and this game returns >>>>>> back alot of memories... One >>>>>> question for James. Was any sounds used or recreated from the original >>>>>> game? >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, I am going to have to buy a copy for myself and my friend >>>>>> from those old days. 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