Not exactly.
The dcm is a plugin dll all screenreaders use.
If you have an old version of your screenreaders, with hal its 5.02-5.11 with
jaws its 4.5 and up till 5.0.
Upgrade your reader and you will be good.
Warning though if you havn't upgraded your reader in a while and want to get
another reader you will have to have your reader you have existing on your
system upgraded since dcm and non dcm will not work they may sort of but you
will have issues and when you try to uninstall you will stuff up the chain and
have to reformat.
I did this before, so just don't do that man.
Every screenreader is dcm complient.
Dcm is a standard and comes in all readers.
Aparently some fax programs use it.
You don't need a program per say, hell its 2 util files and a chain changer
program.
And in most cases you don't need to worry about it.
If it will not load all you need to do is push enter or whatever and reboot and
its ok.
Nvidia cards do have issues with it, just make sure you are updated to at least
november 2004 thats all.
At 08:02 a.m. 3/02/2006, you wrote:
>Ok,
>So lets see if I understand.You need a third party system to have two screen
>readers loaded onto a single computer. Is that correct? I was kind of hoping
>that I could just unload or sleep the one and turn the other one when I
>needed it, then vice versa. Is that possible without all that trouble?
>I mean , couldn't the second screen reader be treated just like any other
>program that I use without Jaws running?
>allan
>The truth will set you freehe...
>Jesus of Nazareth 33 AD
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:40 AM
>Subject: Re: audyssey: microsoft
>
>
>> Depends if its dcm compatible.
>> I have dcm compabible software.
>> In case there are those non educated in dcm it stands for direct chain
>> management.
>> What the hell does it mean?
>> Well for the end user, you can run as many screenreaders or whatever
>> supports the dcm standard without the following.
>> 1. installation problems, that is you used to have to uninstall the
>> readers in reverse.
>> 2. Use of a display patch bridge.
>> I actually used one of these for a short time.
>> In dcm you can run all dcm programs together, but why you would like to
>> run jaws is a weird thing to me.
>> Like hal and jaws.
>> But if you mistakenly did it now and restarted then you still will have a
>> system.
>> In the old days the patch is like this.
>> Your first screenreader, say jaws, is the display driver, then jaws loads
>> the display driver which loads hal or whatever.
>> If you started both together, the following would happen.
>> Your system would start with an hardware error.
>> If you were lucky you would start with a reduced display mode.
>> To fix this, you reinstalled your display driver, or roled the driver back
>> and installed the thing again.
>> But in most cases you got a hardware error.
>> You fixed this by doing a reformat.
>> Its fine to do that, as it gets the system going.
>> But the thing was it was so easy to damn well do.
>> I did this on a number of ocations, sometimes I forgot to remove a reader
>> from startup and an install with it ran and then well boom, time to
>> reformat.
>> Or pushing 2 hotkeys at once by mistake, guess what, time to reformat.
>> Before this I had one reader.
>> I was one of the first on the scene with dcm enabled software.
>> For the developer, dcm is a library, you can call dcm from any app to use
>> it.
>> Its small and well its quite ok.
>> True it did have a few bugs but they quickly went away.
>> Dcm unlike the old non dcm method doesn't necessarily have to be
>> configured.
>> There is a program to ultar the chain order of screenreaders, but for most
>> things if you install another dcm program, and say update that program,
>> with say another system, and the display driver aint updated, graphics
>> card, etc dcm will update its data automatically.
>> If your graphics drivers or other problems, or updates to dcm are made you
>> may get an error on your reader.
>> You push enter and reboot and dcm will reload with new data.
>> Dcm is coded by microsoft.
>> But the standard was designed by a-squared and gwmicro.
>> Ms made the dlls and thats it.
>> I suppose ms own the code but nothing else.
>> Its good that someone else other than ms wrote the standard.
>> Ms can't buy dcm for their own uses.
>> Imagine for instance if after activating your screenreader you would have
>> to activate dcm because ms wanted you to.
>> I don't think they can do that though.
>> I think they were contracted with writing the code.
>> But thats that.
>> At 12:31 a.m. 3/02/2006, you wrote:
>>>Hi Shaun,
>>>I never occured to me that there are other screen readers that can be put
>>>on the same system. I always thought that one system, one reader.
>>>So perhaps another screen reader can help in filling out forms where
>>>Jaws
>>>can't?
>>>Thanks for the idea. You have been a great help.
>>>
>>>So now , are those other screen readers as expensive as jaws?
>>>allan
>>>
>>>The truth will set you freehe...
>>>Jesus of Nazareth 33 AD
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:23 PM
>>>Subject: Re: audyssey: microsoft
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have had my problems with jaws forms mode which is why I continue to
>>>>use
>>>>hal for most tasks.
>>>> I spent cash getting jaws for a spaciffic project back at tech and
>>>> upgraded it on smas.
>>>> But I feel disaloosioned since the only time I actually need jaws is
>>>> when
>>>> I do an xl project or hard word format document.
>>>> Since thats not done anymore since i am no longer needing to do stuff
>>>> like
>>>> that because I am no longer at uni, jaws is for a couple of journal
>>>> sites,
>>>> and a couple sights that lock hell.
>>>> Up to the time i loaded k-lite mega codec I was using it to update and
>>>> install realplayer.
>>>> The only reason I keep it is actually because I need it in a low key
>>>> way,
>>>> but also as I spent loads on it.
>>>> If you take away advanced semi graphical programs away, hal 5.21 can do
>>>> most if not everything a home user wants.
>>>> I was never able to nut out forms mode and in fact jaws seems to want
>>>> forms as having some key presses as commands.
>>>> I may try a demo of windoweyes.
>>>> However I doubt unless I really need it that I will ever upgrade any
>>>> screen reader I currently have.
>>>> The truth is that the jaws thing came to late for my project and it
>>>> ended
>>>> without jaws when most needed.
>>>> So I have a failed project and a whaping piece of expensive software I
>>>> hardly need.
>>>> Is it bad luck or what?
>>>> At 09:12 a.m. 2/02/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>Actually, What I was attempting to do is register vb express. It can't
>>>>>be
>>>>>registered without a microsoft passport account. When I fill out the
>>>>>form
>>>>>to
>>>>>get an account, which consists of all sorts of information, you
>>>>>finally
>>>>>at
>>>>>the end of it all click I accept. What happens is that All the edit
>>>>>fields
>>>>>are wiped clean and there is no message of anything having been denied
>>>>>or
>>>>>accepted. When I attempted to use the passport, since it is also a
>>>>>hotmail
>>>>>account, it would not work, thus proving to me that the account wasn't
>>>>>created.
>>>>>I finally broke down and got my sister to fill in the form for passport,
>>>>>and
>>>>>jaws was on. This same thing occured with her, so she turned off jaws
>>>>>and
>>>>>redid the account and it worked.
>>>>>I am not sure about any email that needs to be sent to me, except for
>>>>>the
>>>>>one that is sent to provide a key for the program, which will finally
>>>>>complete the registration...man, this sounds like an accesible game
>>>>>idea.
>>>>>Fill in the account fields...or die!
>>>>>I hope I explained what has been going on, and I am sorry for any
>>>>>confusion.
>>>>>allan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The truth will set you freehe...
>>>>>Jesus of Nazareth 33 AD
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:47 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: audyssey: microsoft
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think we are on different pages. What are you trying to verify, if it
>>>>>>is
>>>>>> an email address, you wait for the email address associated with your
>>>>>> Microsoft passport to be sent and click on the link.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "allan thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:34 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: microsoft
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Sarah,
>>>>>>> Are you using jaws 5.0? If you are then perhaps I am doing something
>>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> allan
>>>>>>> The truth will set you freehe...
>>>>>>> Jesus of Nazareth 33 AD
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:33 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: microsoft
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> managed to verify my address with no problems. I just waited for an
>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>> to appear and clicked onthe link and then followed the prompts.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "allan thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:03 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: microsoft
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Shaun for checking it out. It also appears that microsoft
>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>> want me to register vb studio express either. It has become an
>>>>>>>>> exercise
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> frustration.
>>>>>>>>> allan
>>>>>>>>> The truth will set you freehe...
>>>>>>>>> Jesus of Nazareth 33 AD
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:43 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: microsoft
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well alan I mannaged to verify an address but not approve it.
>>>>>>>>>> In the old days before hotmail was secured I mad a passport and
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>> to log in on an old email address with it.
>>>>>>>>>> When I change my email I will keep my msn.
>>>>>>>>>> I tried to get another but can't varify the address so went back
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> old address.
>>>>>>>>>> At 04:59 p.m. 1/02/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>Hello list,
>>>>>>>>>>>for anyone who as ignorant as me, I felt it is necessary to tell
>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>adventures with trying to get a microsoft passport created.
>>>>>>>>>>>The biggest thing that must be remembered with this experience is
>>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>jaws must be unloaded, at least mine being jaws 5.0 or none of the
>>>>>>>>>>>information put into the fields will be retained. So before you
>>>>>>>>>>>push
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>accept button, take the steps required to prevent frustration.
>>>>>>>>>>>sorry for the OT subject, but I thought it would be relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>information.
>>>>>>>>>>>later,
>>>>>>>>>>>allan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The truth will set you freehe...
>>>>>>>>>>>Jesus of Nazareth 33 AD
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