Dale,
Excellent advice.
Those spacers will save you hours of time and lots of "adjusting".
Cy, the Ancient Okie... 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] How to Install Joist Hangers for a Deck

For the blind I recommend measuring and cutting some spacers. They should be
clearly identified so sighted people and blind ones too don't throw them
away.

These spacers should be cut the length of the distance between joists on 16
inch centers. In theory this should be 14 and a half inches but in my
experience it is usually closer to 14 and a quarter. When using joist
hangers it may be necessary to allow a little for them too and I have found
it useful to double check and allow for a little drift particularly where
spacing is more critical such as behind 4 by 8 sheets, I think it may be
because dimensional lumber isn't all that precise.

It can be helpful to attach a longer piece like a length of 2 by 4 to one
edge so the spacer can be hung on the ledger or edge joist for easier
positioning. Make one for each end it is a bit like having another pair of
hands when aligning your joists. They also help a lot in keeping joists
vertical and if necessary to persuade a certain amount of twist out of less
than fully dry timber.

TIP:  Don't jam the spacer in too tight it can be a bear to get out.

TIP:  2 by 4 spacers can be useful in exactly the same way for constructing
walls and occasionally get left behind and difficult for the blind to locate
once the wall is erected.

TIP:  It can be useful to very precisely cut a length of strapping exactly 4
feet long for verifying accurate centers particularly for walls where
sheeting will be installed. Be aware that sighted helpers also find 4 foot
lengths useful for scrap or temporary braces so they tend to disappear.

Remember that the first member is not always 16 inches on center but 16
inches center from the edge, actually 15 and a quarter to center. This need
not be true in deck construction where 4 foot panels are to be installed but
it does become important when installing things like siding or drywall.

Often a series of templates will prove to be more durable than braille
measuring devices on the building site always supposing they remain
locatable. Folding carpenters rulers seem to find themselves under boots or
knees.

I also like to instal a series of spacers between the joists part way along
their span. This substantially stiffens up the structure at very little
cost. Traditionally 'X' braces are used but I am a little too lazy for that
and it requires much more precision

Hopefully you will find some small pearls in this Dan.



Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Boyce, Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] How to Install Joist Hangers for a Deck


> Hi
> Joist hangers, metal fasteners that attach joists to ledger boards, are 
> inexpensive and can save you time when you're building your deck.
>
> Steps:
> 1.
> Mark where each joist will be placed on the ledger board, starting at the 
> outside corner. (Joists should be spaced on 16-inch centers.)
>
> 2.
> Transfer markings to the beam using a storyboard. (A storyboard is simply 
> a long piece of scrap lumber onto which you can pencil the distance 
> between joists;
> use it to transfer the same design to the ledger board and any subsequent 
> beams in a fraction of the time needed to repeat the measurement process 
> over
> and over.)
>
> 3.
> Place a joist hanger at each marked space, setting the top of the joist 
> flush with the ledger or top edge or beam (if joists are set on the side 
> of the
> beam).
>
> 4.
> Insert a scrap of lumber into each joist hanger to hold the correct 
> opening.
>
> 5.
> Nail the joist hangers in place.
>
> Tips:
>
> Make an X to indicate the side of each mark where each joist will sit.
>
> Once the joist hangers are in place you are ready to lay the footing for 
> your deck.
>
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