Dale.  I'm taking all of this in because I'm still working on, well 
planning, my radio desk.  If I can make something that looks really good, 
Sue will let me make an entertainment center for a wide screen TV she is 
looking at in a local high fi store.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish


> Max,
>
> I have a feeling that is a common problem for us blind folk applying 
> finish.
> We perceive the need to really get a good covering. It is one way to 
> insure
> the entire surface gets coated, to apply lots and work back and forth and 
> so
> on. It just is instinctively right.
>
> When it comes to finishing though, this isn't quite right. I understand 
> from
> talking to spray painters that it is best to apply very thin coats, this
> keeps the paint or lacquer from accumulating and forming drips and runs 
> and
> the solvents can evaporate much more quickly resulting in a much shorter
> open time, no surface tension or skin to hold the solvents so the finish
> sets up harder and with a shorter cure time, less opportunity for specks 
> of
> dust and fly sh*t to stick in it.
>
> The other thing is that a thick finish is also more likely to chip and
> crack. Because eyes can see that the surface is covered or the colour or
> shine or what ever is consistent they can stop at the desired effect.
>
> I have and still continue to apply finishes to many projects and I still
> tend to apply way too much finish although I am getting slowly better. In
> the end I buff and rub and grind off a lot between coats which uses up a 
> lot
> of time and material but the outcome is usually pretty good. It could be
> more efficiently achieved  but it is as good as I can do.
>
> I like the foam brushes for paint too and they have the advantage of
> disposability but I do use a lot getting the finish as I want. I like the
> little disposable rollers for applying contact cement and working with
> fiberglass resin. Those were tips given to me by a sighted chap, it makes
> laying that sticky stuff down a lot easier.
>
>
> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish
>
>
>> this is one reason that I've had luck with paddle, or sponge brushes.
>> I've been told that sighted folks can get it really really right. but 
>> most
>> would rather spray and put hardly a coat on it though it looks just fine.
>> (too fine, or thin if you ask me)
>>
>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Dan Rossi wrote:
>>
>>> I have to agree with Dale,
>>>
>>> After talking with many people about finishes, my sighted friends always
>>> complain about how difficult it is to get a perfect finish without brush
>>> strokes visible.  The finishes feel fine, but you can see the marks.  I
>>> find it hard to believe that finger painting a finish would have a good
>>> visible finish.  I'm sure it feels perfectly smooth, that is a function
>>> of
>>> sanding and buffing, but I have my doubts as to the visible effect.
>>>
>>> -- 
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>>> Dan Rossi
>>> Carnegie Mellon University.
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>
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