Sounds like it would be plenty for as long as you will need it.
Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Missy Mosquito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Re: Bad Tile Grout... what can be done? > Thanks Dale and rj! Excellent information! > > I think we may try the spot repair, cleaning, and resealing first. > I'm not sure how thrilled we'd be about trying to get out the old > grout for new grout... with a baby on the way, we have to keep the > dust down (I remember the first time we had this done it seemed like > the dust supply was endless for months). I do still have a bag of > the original mix for the grout for some repairs and I do have a few > extra tiles, but I'm not sure the smashed tiles are bad enough to > warrant all the trouble of replacing them... I might can slip some > grout in the cracks since the tiles are the lightest gray > immaginable... white would barely show. > > And as of today, my husband will be taking a job in Chicago, so we > will be selling this house in a matter of months. If I was staying, > I'd consider huge amounts of work like regrouting... but with us > leaving, I think I'll let the new owners deal with it! > > Now... since I HAVE to finish my kitchen now... do you think I can > install the toekick with just some liquid nails? Drilling and > nailing through that laminated particle board is a nightmare... do > you think the liquid nails would be sufficient? > > Thanks, Sarah > > --- In [email protected], "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> I think it was RJ had good information, you can remove the grout > or just >> take it down with a carbide tipped knife then clean the loose out > of the >> cracks and renew the grout in any colour you like. You can buy > grout in many >> locations, it is only a form of cement. You apply it and pack it > tightly >> down into the cracks with a putty knife and a float to bang it > down hard >> into the cracks and with a sponge or rag wipe off the excess. > After a little >> time when it begins to set up you then wash the surface of the > tiles off >> vigorously to remove any residue otherwise it causes hazing on the > surface >> of the tiles. You may also want to push a dampened rag firmly > along the >> grout line to really close up the pours. After a couple of days > you then go >> over the lot with a good grout sealer. Usually a silicone product > is most >> satisfactory but I believe there are acrylic compounds as well. >> >> If there are cracked and or broken tiles and you have spares they > can be >> removed and new ones stuck down. do not break them out at the > grout line, >> raising the pressure there can cause adjacent tiles to crack. A > cold chisel >> on the tile to be broken and a tap or two with a hammer or score > it with a >> carbide tipped tool and use the score line to crack then remove > the >> offending tile. You may need to clean out the space and if a bed > of mastic >> or mortar it might be necessary to build up the substrate a little > to insure >> the replacement tile is close to the same height as neighbours. >> >> If you intend to do this yourself I suggest that you prepare the > entire area >> to be fixed but make up enough grout to work about a square yard > at a time >> and methodically make your way through the room. With skill you > can do much >> more but you don't want a batch of curing grout while you fool > with getting >> things right and learning the skills and you don't want to get so > far ahead >> that you cannot get the haze washed off, it is damn difficult to > get rid of >> the next day when the cement is thoroughly stuck to the finish > surface of >> the once pretty tiles. >> >> If you don't plan to do the job yourself at least understand how > it is done >> when it is done correctly. >> >> Now there are different finishes people select, some want the > grout lines >> deep to leave a little shadow but on a floor this is usually bad > news, you >> usually want the grout to fill the lines quite completely to > reduce the dirt >> collection. It also probably wants to be polished a little, use > something >> like a smooth thin pipe or thick wire, something that doesn't > quite fit into >> the grout lines and polish the grout by sliding the tool back and > forth over >> the surface. It is a little like floating and toweling the surface > of >> cement, it brings the cream to the surface which will form a less > porous >> surface and better resist water carrying dust down into the grout. >> >> On a floor you will need to seal more often as the surface seal > will wear >> off with washing and general traffic. >> >> I think that is probably everything I know about grouting tile. I > hope it is >> helpful. >> >> >> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Skype DaleLeavens >> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Missy Mosquito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:36 PM >> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Bad Tile Grout... what can be done? >> >> >> > Hey everyone, >> > >> > A little over a year ago, I had my entire house floors tiled. > It's >> > certainly not the most fantastic tile (several have broken in the >> > corners already), but it's better than disgusting pink carpet! >> > >> > The original intention was for a light gray grout, so that it > would >> > blend with the tiles and not show dirt from my messy husband and > the >> > menagerie of animals parading around. However, after a million >> > times of being asked to choose another color, we finally just > told >> > the workers to put in white to get the job done. And of course, >> > it's dirty in high traffic areas, but does come clean just fine > with >> > a good scrubbing. My main issue is how incredibly pourus this > grout >> > is... dirt goes in and there's no way to get it out without using >> > forceful water (I have a strong sprayer that gets it up). Also to >> > consider is fact that the morons who put it in did a really bad >> > job. I'm missing huge hunks of grout in a lot of places. >> > >> > My main question is... can we just have this grout cleaned very >> > thoroughly and then put on a thin layer of the correct color that >> > won't show dirt and be less pourus? I have no idea if such a > thing >> > is possible. There is quite a dip in the grout lines... enough > that >> > a mop is worthless when cleaning... I have to use the sponge > kind on >> > it's side to get between the tiles. I would think a reasonable >> > layer of new grout would be able to fit in there, and make it > easier >> > to mop. Would this new grout adhere to the old if I did this? >> > >> > And... if putting on some new grout isn't possible, what is the > best >> > method for sealing the existing grout after it is cleaned (most >> > likely from the Stanley Steamer crew)? I put on the sealer that > is >> > sold at home depot, but it didn't do ANYTHING. >> > >> > Thanks, Sarah >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > To listen to the show archives go to link >> > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html >> > or >> > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ >> > >> > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. >> > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday >> > >> > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. >> > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml >> > >> > Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions > From >> > Various List Members At The Following Address: >> > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ >> > Visit the new archives page at the following address >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind > Handy Man >> > list just send a blank message to: >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Yahoo! 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