HI,  Max,  I think that is a fine idea  discriptions always help.   regards don
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Max Robinson 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques


  I have a further suggestion. When information is posted that includes a 
  reference to a diagram Ray, or who ever is posting it, should enlist the 
  help of one of us partials to write a verbal description of the figure. I 
  have considerable experience in doing this and am willing to do my share of 
  the work.

  Regards.

  Max. K 4 O D S.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

  > Hi All,
  >
  > If I can weigh in here for a minute.
  >
  > I thought Mickey's post was done well, and I didn't think there was 
  > anything wrong with it.
  >
  > I just don't think that Mickey was necessarily thinking about the over 200 
  > members on the list, and the fact that some of them, whether it be a small 
  > portion or large portion of our members, have usable sight, such as Don 
  > Shaw, or Boop, and for a time, before I went completely dark, I had some 
  > usable vision, as well, so Ray's posts do have merit, whether they be from 
  > a blind or sighted perspective.
  >
  > There have been many different opinions on this subject, some agreed with 
  > Mickey, and some did not, in any case, it is not up to a regular member on 
  > the list to decide where the list goes, it is up to the list owner and 
  > moderator.
  >
  > If you have problems with how the list is being run, or the direction that 
  > it is taking, feel free to write the owner or moderator. I mean, Jesus, 
  > there are, I think, something like four or five moderators, and I'm sure 
  > you get along with, at least, one of them.
  >
  > Another point is that these problems should be discussed off-list, not on 
  > list.
  >
  > When the necessary changes are to be implemented, and or if the owner and 
  > moderators feel that a consensus is needed from list members, then the 
  > subject should be broached on-list, otherwise, comments on list practises 
  > and allowances should be kept off-list.
  >
  > Lastly, there is one suggestion I would have for Ray, and that is, he 
  > should include the original website address with his posts, this serves 
  > two purposes...
  >
  > First, it allows the reader to check it's legitimacy, and accuracy, and 
  > allows for added ability of the reader to add the website to their 
  > favourites list.
  >
  > Secondly, it allows for the reader to go onto the website and check out if 
  > there's more stuff the reader might want to glean from it.
  >
  > I know of such posts that Ray has submitted where the information was, in 
  > a way what I was looking for, but had just the right amount off as to be 
  > useless to me, however, I wanted to go to the website to see if there 
  > might have been an addendum to the article that would've included that 
  > subtle difference that would have adapted the article to suit me.
  >
  > In any case, these suggestions have allowed the groups that I moderate to 
  > work alright, and I offer these ideas as suggestions for possible 
  > application.
  >
  > Victor Gouveia
  >
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  >
  >
  >
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