The ones here in many of our Ontario Beer stores are a series of rollers wide enough to transport a 24 box of suds from the cooler to the front of the store. I am estimating our local one to be about 40 feet long. They have wonderful bearings in them you can hear them gently clicking as, with a little shove the box glides into view.The only trouble with these is that the mounting frame is designed to be proud of the rollers so the box won't come off over the edge. A couple of rows though would make a wonderful conveyer through the table saw.
I have seen the sort which are a number of wheels with bearings too and when I think of all of the skates we destroyed over the years how nice it would be to have the wheels now. I very rarely see them now, all inline skates these days. Those wheels would be all right but they too are not cheap in sufficient numbers to be useful. I wonder how well an overhead rail system suspending the stock would work, something like used in supporting pocket doors? Then it would be out of the way when not in use. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Supporting the Work > Dale. Remember the old steel wheel sidewalk roller skates? The wheels on > those box coaster conveyers are nothing more than those old fashioned > roller > skate wheels. > > Regards. > > Max. K 4 O D S. > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net > Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net > Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com > > To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:46 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Supporting the Work > > >>I have used these stands many times and usually satisfactorily, don't much >> care to be hauling about weights to support the stands which are supposed >> to >> support the work though. >> >> The crank mechanism used a length of "ready rod" that continuously >> threaded >> rod. I don't remember for certain but I think the rod passed through a >> bearing through a partition near the top of the stand restricted between >> washers and pairs of locking nuts while the lower end climbed up or down >> through a nut in the lower outer sleeve of the stand. >> >> I only saw the programme once and thought it might be a useful approach >> and >> maybe a way to hold a few more rollers for a longer travel. >> >> Unless you have access to spare rollers they are outrageously expensive, >> the >> use of ABS pipe though struck me as a good solution and as it happens I >> have >> a hole saw which creates exactly the right size of cores with a hole >> absolutely centered. My first application though will be a modification >> of >> the idea, an outfeed table hinged to the rear of my table saw that I can >> just swing up and hinge legs under to add about three more feet of low >> friction and adequately wide outfeed which I can easily drop out of the >> way >> when I don't want it. Don't know when I'll get to it though. >> >> Apparently the washing machine repair people used to have people after >> them >> for the old rollers salvaged from the old ringer washing machines for >> this >> sort of purpose. A few years ago I went looking for commercial rollers, >> very >> expensive. Would be nice to rip off a super market or two. I can't leave >> a >> beer store without an envious look at their roller delivery system. >> >> >> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Skype DaleLeavens >> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mickey Fixsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Supporting the Work >> >> >>> Dale, >>> >>> You need to put something heavy on the base to keep the stands in place >>> (sand bags, or something). As long as the board contacts the upper half >>> of the roller and the stand is secure enough to stay put, the board will >>> go over the top. I set the height by placing a long board on the tool >>> table that I am using and then just raise the roller up to barely touch >>> the bottom of the board. Granted, boards aren't all exactly flat, but >>> this method works, if the stand will stay put with enough weight on it. >>> >>> I have some that I made with old car wheels as the bases (free from tire >>> dealers). I used 2 sizes of plumbing pipe for the vertical supports >>> with >>> one sliding inside the other and a locking knob to hold the adjustment. >>> There is a pipe flange at the bottom to attach to the wheel. At the >>> top, >>> there is a piece of angle iron with a flat tab on each ent and holes >>> drilled through to hold the roller. I found some 12" long used conveyor >>> rollers to use on the top. You can buy both rollers with brackets or >>> ball >>> bearings with brackets to use on the top for rollers. You could use >>> plastic plumbing pipe with regular end caps and center drill the caps >>> for >>> an axle. You might want to slip a piece of plastic (PVC) tubing over >>> the >>> plastic pipe, between the end caps, to make it level all the way across. >>> >>> I saw the program where Norm made his supports. What wasn't exactly >>> clear >>> to me was how he used the threaded rod as the height adjustment. Do you >>> know how this worked? >>> >>> Thanks-- Mickey >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Dale Leavens >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:25 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Supporting the Work >>> >>> >>> This won't help you too much but this week Canadian Tire has roller >>> stands >>> on sale for under ten bucks. >>> >>> I have a couple, I am of a couple of minds about them. These ones have >>> a >>> pipe with horizontal pipe across the bottom and a similar parallel flat >>> steel bent up at the ends with a roller across. A second inverted 'T' >>> hinged >>> from a cuff that fits around the main pipe and can be slid up and down >>> and >>> tightened into place with a hand knob on a bolt.I paid nearly fifty >>> bucks >>> for mine a couple of years ago. >>> >>> The height is infinitely variable from something like 30 to 42 inches. >>> I >>> use >>> mine to catch stock coming off my table saw or jointer or drum sander >>> and >>> could use it with the drill press too I suppose, just never have. >>> >>> My main complaint is that if the board nudges the roller stand it often >>> prefers to fall over rather than raise the board over the top. >>> >>> My hero Norm Abrams has made one, a sort of box within a box with a >>> threaded >>> rod to be screwed up or down to set the height. He made a set of >>> rollers >>> on >>> the top using plastic plumbing pipe with wooden circles in the ends and >>> rod >>> through. I am thinking that a very slight slope toward the approaching >>> work >>> might catch the end and tilt on a pivot to level and it would be secure >>> against falling over. >>> >>> There is little worse than having to depend on something innately >>> undependable. >>> >>> I have been known to suspend the end of a long piece from a rope >>> attached >>> to >>> the overhead joists. >>> >>> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Skype DaleLeavens >>> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "William Stephan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:10 PM >>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Supporting the Work >>> >>> > Yesterday, I got to spend a considerable amount of time in my >>> basement >>> > cutting and drilling in preparation for building a workbench. The >>> floor >>> > is about five inches higher at the base of three of the walls than it >>> is >>> > in the center where there is a drain. This can present some >>> challenges, >>> > but I like it just the same. But I digress. >>> > >>> > My wife is a woman of many talents, some of which have to do with >>> music. >>> > She has a studio, and several adjustable music stands. >>> > >>> > Yesterday, I "borrowed" one of these to use while I was sawing and >>> > running my drill press. It worked amazingly well quite frankly, and >>> it >>> > was sturdier than I had thought. It was easily adjustable, and >>> because >>> of >>> > the sloping floor, I could make minor changes by just moving it an >>> inch >>> > or two in one direction or another. >>> > >>> > Any of you folks have different and maybe better ways of supporting >>> work? >>> > >>> > Thanks for any other ideas. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Bill Stephan >>> > Kansas City, MO >>> > (816)803-2469 >>> > William Stephan >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > To listen to the show archives go to link >>> > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html >>> > or >>> > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ >>> > >>> > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. >>> > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday >>> > >>> > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. >>> > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml >>> > >>> > Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From >>> > Various List Members At The Following Address: >>> > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ >>> > Visit the new archives page at the following address >>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy >>> Man >>> > list just send a blank message to: >>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > Yahoo! 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