Trouble, I agree with your statement of "> That black smoke you refer to on a diesel is raw fuel not burned and means the person that worked on that engine can't tune worth a crap!" Also insufficient air supply will cause black smoke. Art ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trouble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Blown out valve covers
> That black smoke you refer to on a diesel is raw fuel not burned and > means the person that worked on that engine can't tune worth a crap! > All the big rigs I have worked on ran at 2100 rpm and the torque was > given up by there many gear ranges. The most easiest engines I found > to work on where the Detroit, easy tune and rebuild. As for Cummins > they where pain in tuning dial indicator. > > At 02:13 PM 10/28/2006, you wrote: > >Robert,you wrote > >"offul sounding stink boms you call an engine" Must times when a diesel is > >running out of time they produce black smoke and stink as you put it. > >The louder sound is caused by the injection of the diesel fuel. The > >compression is higher in a diesel than a gas engine. The fuel is injected > >with high pressures. > >I for the most part like your choice of word "superior" HaHaHa. > >You also said "by and large I believe have more torck" yes they do have more > >toque. > >In many diesel applications they run at lower RPMs than a gas engine. > >Over the years I have worked on many gas and diesel engines. Growing up in > >a family owned small business you work on whatever comes your way. > >Art > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Robert J. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 2:19 AM > >Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Blown out valve covers > > > > > > > Read to the end for my answers > > > > > > Hello Robert and list readers, > > > Robert you did not mention a year for this Chevy v6 that you were working > > > on. > > > I would assume that it is a vehicle with an electronic fuel pump because > >you > > > wrote "forgot to hook up the fuel lines to the throttle body". The > >turning > > > on of the key would activate the electronic fuel pump and gas could have > > > probably flowed in to the engine. > > > Now other questions are how much gas might have got inside the engine and > > > did it get on to both heads? What actually sparked the gas to cause the > > > explosions? I am guessing that the gas did not ignite in the oil pan > >since > > > you did not mention bending of the oil pan. So the question is what > >ignited > > > the gas under each valve cover in a relatively close time frame to cause > > > consecutive back fires? > > > Could moving valve train engine parts to cause sparks to ignite the gas? > > > What is the probability of that happening consecutively on opposite sides > >of > > > the engine? > > > Does this particular engine have crank case vents on both valve covers? > >If > > > so, could a out of time spark plug sparked at a time when a valve was open > > > while gas vapors were starting to be sucked through the tubes leading from > > > the valve covers? > > > Why play with gas engines? See we don't have these kind of problems with > > > diesel engines. I am only trying to kid you. I guess you can tell that I > > > am partial to diesel engines. > > > > > > It will be interesting to read any other replies that you get on this one. > > > > > > Art > > > This is a 1989 s10 with a 4.3 v6 > > > yes it has an electric fuel pump. > > > Most of the gas went on top of the intake manifold and we mopped that up > >the > > > best we could but I am sure some got into the valve train but probably not > > > much. > > > I am guessing that the spark came through an open valve since at that time > > > we were no where close to having it timed. matter of fact we were 180 > > > degrees off and we were out of sequence. > > > there are vent wholes on both valve covers. > > > I know that those offul sounding stink boms you call an engine are far > > > superior in regards to longevity and by and large I believe have more > >torck. > > > but I like my little gas engine that could. > > > Now if I could only get my little 4.3 to grow 2 more cilenders I would > >have > > > the 350 that I would rather have. but oh well its only an s10. > > > Ha Ha > > > > > > If I open a shop up here I would offer jobs to Art > > > Mickey > > > Larry > > > Lewis > > > and ah umm who did I miss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > > > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > > > or > > > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > > > > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > > > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > > > > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. > > > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml > > > > > > Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From > >Various List Members At The Following Address: > > > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ > > > Visit the new archives page at the following address > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > >list just send a blank message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Yahoo! 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