Yes, two wires. You can't have an electric circuit with only one wire. It is possible to make a sort of connection through the ground but that's mainly good for giving shocks to people. I'm not sure how far apart they are because I've never had occasion to examine them close-up. I have looked at overhead wires through binoculars but it's pretty hard to judge scale through them. I would guess 6 inches to a foot for the drop to a residence. Maybe Ray can give better information. I believe he works for a power company.
Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Doucet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Metal Ladders and Electricity Do Not Mix. > Hi, > > So these wires are actually two wires? How far appart are they? > > At 12:25 PM 11/28/2006 -0600, you wrote: > >>Spiro wrote. >> >> > and how do birds sit on these wires and not get zapped? I've always >> > wondered that. >> >>To get zapped you need to touch both sides of the circuit at the same >>time. >>Usually the earth and a hot wire is enough to give you a good one. Birds >>are so small they are only sitting on one wire at a time and they don't >>feel >>a thing. Power line workers use the same principle when they stand in >>their >>insulated bucket trucks and work on the hot wires. >> >>Regards. >> >>Max. K 4 O D S. >> >>Email: <mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>Transistor site >><http://www.funwithtransistors.net>http://www.funwithtransistors.net >>Vacuum tube site: <http://www.funwithtubes.net>http://www.funwithtubes.net >>Music site: <http://www.maxsmusicplace.com>http://www.maxsmusicplace.com >> >>To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, >><mailto:funwithtubes-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <<mailto:spiro%40netaxs.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: >><<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected]> >>Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:04 AM >>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Metal Ladders and Electricity Do Not Mix. >> >> > maybe this is narrow minded of me. >> > But my insurance company actually tells me when my roofing waranty is >> > up. >> > Couldn't they at that time, request the customer to show that >> > electrical >> > lines "X" feet from the house are insulated? >> > Is it really dumb, or out-of-line to run 250 ft of 400V insulated, if >> > that >> > many folks are getting zapped? >> > (is this a helmet law?) or should we just give a hearty "haha goodbye" >> > to >> > folks getting zapped by outdoor wiring? >> > and how do birds sit on these wires and not get zapped? I've always >> > wondered that. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Ray Boyce wrote: >> > >> >> Hi >> >> CPSC warns that consumers can be electrocuted when they use metal >> >> ladders >> >> near overhead wires. Consumers often use metal ladders near overhead >> >> wires >> >> to >> >> clean gutters, paint structures, trim trees, and repair roofs and >> >> chimneys. >> >> >> >> from electrocution when someone was using a >> >> metal ladder which contacted an electrical wire in or around the home. >> >> >> >> Electrocutions often occur when: >> >> >> >> Consumers move metal ladders which accidentally touch an overhead >> >> electrical >> >> wire near the house or street. Metal ladders conduct electricity, >> >> which >> >> can >> >> kill anyone touching the ladder. >> >> >> >> . Metal ladders shift position. Wind , uneven ground or reaching to >> >> the >> >> side >> >> while on the ladder can cause the ladder or person to contact an >> >> overhead >> >> wire. >> >> >> >> . Consumers use metal ladders while handling an improperly grounded >> >> power >> >> tool or contacting an electrical source, such as a light socket. >> >> >> >> . Metal stepladders and extension ladders meeting Underwriters >> >> Laboratories >> >> and American National Standards Institute voluntary standards have >> >> labels >> >> warning >> >> about this hazard. The labels typically state with words and graphic: >> >> >> >> Metal Ladder Touching Tree and Roof >> >> >> >> "Danger! Metal conducts electricity! Keep ladder away from power lines >> >> and >> >> live electrical wires." >> >> >> >> Despite these and other warnings, electrocutions still occur each >> >> year. >> >> To >> >> avoid this hazard, CPSC advises you to use a ladder, that does not >> >> conduct >> >> electricity, >> >> such as fiberglass or wood, when working near overhead wires. >> >> >> >> If you must use a metal ladder, follow these precautions: >> >> >> >> 1. Carefully check the location of all overhead wires before using a >> >> ladder, >> >> especially where the lines connect to the house. Any powerline >> >> (including >> >> the >> >> line running from the street to your house) can permit electricity to >> >> flow >> >> into a piece of metal or 3 other object, such as a wet tree branch, >> >> that >> >> touches >> >> it. >> >> >> >> Powerlines and phone lines often appear similar. Assume all overhead >> >> wires >> >> carry electricity. Some overhead lines are coated to extend the life >> >> of >> >> the >> >> line. >> >> The coating is not intended to protect against electrocution. >> >> >> >> 2. Lower the ladder when carrying or moving it, to avoid touching an >> >> overhead wire. Since long ladders can be unwieldy, have someone help >> >> carry >> >> and set >> >> up the ladder. >> >> >> >> 3. Never work on a windy day a gust of wind can cause the ladder to >> >> shift >> >> and touch an overhead wire. >> >> >> >> 4. Never place a ladder where it could slide into an overhead line. >> >> Make >> >> sure the distance to the nearest overhead line is at least twice the >> >> length >> >> of >> >> the ladder. >> >> >> >> 5. Place the ladder's feet on solid, level ground before climbing it. >> >> When >> >> the ground is not level or is soft, put a flat piece of wood under one >> >> or >> >> both >> >> feet of the ladder to provide a solid, level base. If possible, tieoff >> >> the >> >> ladder to prevent it from moving. >> >> >> >> 6. If the ladder should start to fall into an overhead line, let it >> >> go. >> >> Never try to move it. Do not leave the ladder unattended Have someone >> >> call >> >> the power >> >> company and ask them to cut off electricity to the line, before you >> >> move >> >> the >> >> ladder. If someone is holding the ladder when it contacts the overhead >> >> line, >> >> never try to pull them away with your hands. 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