Dale. That would be cool. Wish you lived nearer. Regards.
Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] A router for Christmas. > Hi Max, > > I sure did a lot of work exactly as you are doing. > > I generally work to the other side of the blade and now I more often use > those 'F' clamps, the sort with a fixed jaw at the top and a sliding one > which runs up and down a bar which you tighten by squeezing handles. They > can be had with nice firm foam pads which don't usually mark the wood. > Makes > setting the clamps a lot faster and easier too. > > That sounds like a very practical router. It is useful these days to have > both half and quarter inch shaft capability. > > I wish I were near enough to help you build a workshop. With a miter saw > and > a circular saw and a square and a couple of good framing hammers we should > be able to frame up nearly any size building you want in a week, > weatherproof in two weeks. Would be fun. > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype DaleLeavens > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:17 AM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] A router for Christmas. > > >> Hi Dale. >> >> As I noted earlier I started cutting the wood for the radio desk >> yesterday. >> I've never tackled something this big before so I am learning as I go. >> My >> method of cutting straight lines works very well. First I figured out >> how >> far the blade is from the edge of the bottom plate, not sure what to call >> it, of the hand saw. I did that by clamping a piece of finished >> shelving >> material to the sheet of ply wood in a place where the edge will be >> scrap. >> I made a little cut and measured. It happens to be 3 and 31/32 inches. >> So >> now all I have to do is clamp the shelving to the ply wood that distance >> from where I make the cut. I use scraps of the same shelving on the >> other >> side to prevent clamp marks on the good wood. I'm using burch plywood. >> I >> use finished shelving because it is straight and very smooth and the saw >> won't catch on any part of it. I have the sides and 3 shelves cut. One >> more. The top shelf and main table top are to go. Wish me luck, so far >> so >> good. I just opened the router and it didn't come with a starter bit. >> It >> is a 2 and 1/4 horse power variable speed with collets, I think that's >> what >> they are called, for 1/2 and 1/4 inch bits. I don't think I will ever >> have >> a table saw and other fixed in place shop equipment, No room for them. >> I >> would have to have another building put up. Sue and I built the storage >> shed for our riding mower but we couldn't do that now. Old age is >> catching >> up with us you know. Right now I move the mowers and wheel barrel out of >> the shed and work in it. Who knows I may be singing a different tune a >> year from now. I just might save up my pennies and have a workshop >> built. >> There's no lack of space for it, we have a big lot. We are in the county >> so >> not much in the way of building codes to contend with. This is a >> libertarian, agricultural area. >> >> Regards. >> >> Max. K 4 O D S. >> >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net >> Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net >> Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com >> >> To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 8:52 AM >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] A router for Christmas. >> >> >>> Hi Max, >>> >>> You will find a router to be a very useful and quite versatile >>> woodworking >>> tool. There are many who believe it to be the superior way to cut dados, >>> certainly they can do a very good job, particularly cutting blind dados >>> and >>> sliding dovetails. I am not sure I always agree, I really like a dado >>> blade >>> in my table saw for a lot of that work too, the table is larger and the >>> rip >>> fence makes set-up very quick but a router forms a perfectly flat >>> bottomed >>> groove although there are those who claim the double groove at each edge >>> of >>> a properly dado blade cut provides some space for the glue. >>> >>> If ever I have a problem with cutting dados with a router it is only in >>> keeping it tracking absolutely straight. There are many ways of >>> accomplishing that, the most important is moving in the direction of the >>> cutter. When cutting a dado one side of the cutter is moving against the >>> direction of the cut while the other edge is moving in the other >>> direction. >>> The point is that you are pushing the cutter against the direction of >>> the >>> cut so it tends not to pull the router along and therefor out of >>> control. >>> >>> I prefer to use guide bushings inserted into the router base just >>> because >>> it >>> is easier to get the cut positioned. The collar is like a short tube >>> projecting below the baseplate through which your bit protrudes. If you >>> are >>> cutting a three quarter dado you fit a collar a little better than three >>> quarters inside diameter the outside diameter will probably be 14 16ths >>> so >>> you can clamp a straight piece of quarter inch or half inch plywood >>> within >>> a >>> sixteenth of an inch from the true location of the dado and set the >>> router >>> on that guide and follow the edge with the collar. >>> >>> The other way to do it is to include the width of the router base >>> divided >>> by >>> two and minus half the diameter of the bit and clamp your straight edge >>> there. I have done this many times too but getting the location exact >>> can >>> be >>> a little frustrating. For example, if the dado is to be 3 quarters of an >>> inch and the router base is 7 inches in diameter then you will offset >>> the >>> straight edge guide half the diameter of the base = 3.5 inches minus >>> half >>> the diameter of the router bit which is 3 8ths so you will place the >>> straight edge three and one eighth inches from the desired edge of the >>> dado. >>> If you want a stopped dado say three quarters from the edge of your >>> board >>> that all gets a lot harder but much easier using a collar. >>> >>> I have made up templates for cutting the stringers for stairs and cut >>> them >>> with a router. >>> This is the only way to go in my view. >>> >>> If you will be doing any amount of wood working you will also soon want >>> a >>> router table. >>> >>> I now have three routers, a monster plunge router from Australia, a >>> 'D'-handled one from sears and a nice little porter-Cab;e. They all have >>> their strengths and weaknesses. Just now the sears is mounted in a >>> router >>> table and I had to remove a handle to get it there, it isn't my >>> favorite. >>> I >>> really like the little Porter-Cable it seems to take all my collars and >>> such >>> but requires two wrenches to remove the bits and the switch is a toggle >>> switch, not ideal. >>> >>> The big Triton is a variable speed with two position plunge but, as it >>> stands I don't see how to instal collars, it is big and heavy and the >>> switch, though very safe is difficult to manipulate. It is behind a >>> sliding >>> door, you slide the door then press the rocker switch with your thumb. >>> when >>> you press it off the door springs over it so you cannot accidentally >>> turn >>> it >>> on but believe me, deliberately turning it on is something of a >>> production. >>> It does come with a very nice combination circle guide and a fence out >>> to >>> about 7 inches which is easily attached and removed and wonderful for >>> cutting dados out to that distance. It is a pretty expensive router and >>> very >>> powerful. >>> >>> I would like a really small one for trimming and such and maybe a small >>> plunge router but I can't imagine Janet allowing me five or six of them. >>> I >>> have destroyed a cheap Black & Decker router and a rather valuable Sears >>> electronic variable speed router over the past 25 years or so. >>> >>> Yesterday I began cutting plywood in preparation for building a router >>> table >>> of more decent size. I began recording bits of the process however the >>> recorder I have isn't doing a wonderful job, I have another better one >>> and >>> will get some batteries for it today and maybe a cheap separate mike. I >>> sent >>> the last mike I had to my daughter for her Skype. As I began cutting up >>> the >>> plywood I discovered it to be warped, maybe because it has been standing >>> in >>> my shed too long, I will probably use a router to cut the dados in that >>> because it will sit flatter on the panels than I will get with my table >>> saw, >>> the saw though will permit much more rapid set-up. >>> >>> Do have fun with your new router and if I can be of any help just let me >>> know. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Skype DaleLeavens >>> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Blind Handyman" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:26 AM >>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] A router for Christmas. >>> >>> >>>> Hi all. Sue gave me a Ridgid router for Christmas. I used the article >>>> about >>>> routers to pick it out but now I would like some hints, dos and don'ts >>>> of >>>> using it. The radio desk has been started. I intend to use the router >>>> to >>>> make the dados. >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> Max. 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