I used to have a terrible time with screw holes in hinges shifting them around 
until I found a tapered drill guide to drill the pilot holes with.  I think I 
bought two or three to fit the range of screw sizes but they make a difference 
in centering the pilot hole.
Ron
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Rotomatic ruler


  Hi Ron and Lenny,

  I do have a bungee cord which I sometimes wrap around the handle and hook to 
  a drawer in the cabinet I made for the saw to hold it down while I measure 
  but I don't use it all that often.

  Just now I am struggling to properly aline these drawer slides. They are 
  actually pretty wonderful slides however the outer segment which attaches to 
  the cabinet wall is a full inch wider than the removable segment which 
  attaches to the drawer side and all I have is about a 16th tolerance. Even 
  with a center punch somehow those damn screws don't quite go exactly where 
  they should. I was out the thickness of sand paper so the bottom edge of 
  one side drags! Nothing for it but to fine tune it with the belt sander.

  Tomorrow I have two half sized drawers to fit in the space on the other side 
  of the partition, jigging them precisely will be a real challenge. In 
  general I like the sort which attach to the bottom edge, simplifies locating 
  the slides on the drawer considerably and the wall mounted members quite a 
  bit.

  Oh well, nothing for it but to be patient.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "R & S Enterprises" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Rotomatic ruler

  > May I say my chin is also used as a hold down on the mitre saw to be able 
  > to measure to the blade. Just the thing to do isn't it.
  > Ron
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: Lenny McHugh
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:08 PM
  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Rotomatic ruler
  >
  >
  > Dale,
  > I liked your description of using the ruler to set up your miter saw. I
  > thought that I was the only one who used his chin or cheek to hold down 
  > the
  > saw to align the stock. I don't know how many times my wife made a 
  > comment
  > when she saw me doing that. Now I can tell her that it is the proper way 
  > to
  > set up the saw.
  > Great description of the tool and use.
  > Lenny
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:41 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quesion on Rotomatic ruler
  >
  > You have done pretty well at describing the rule.
  >
  > The threaded rod is six and a half inches long. The large rectangular nut 
  > is
  > the one you most commonly use for measuring. The other nut is used 
  > when/if
  > you want to lock the rectangular nut into place to hold a measure or even 
  > to
  > use it as a sort of monster feeler gauge.
  >
  > You should notice a small notch cut into one of the longer sides of the
  > rectangular nut, this is to help orient it.
  >
  > You are correct, the half inch marks are where a thread is continued all
  > around the face of the milled side of the threaded rod. Each revolution 
  > of
  > the nut represents one sixteenth of an inch so, half a turn is a 32nd of 
  > an
  > inch and a quarter turn is a 64th. two complete turns is an eighth of an
  > inch and so on.
  >
  > If you require more than 6 inches then you thread the 6 inch rod bringing
  > your measure up as far as 12 and a half inches, add the 12 inch rod or 
  > the
  > 18 inch rod or any combination there of and you have the lengths you
  > require.
  >
  > What I really like about the measure is that I can set a size off of a 
  > plan
  > or I can take a measure from a project, lock the nut into place then go 
  > to
  > my miter saw and pressing the end of the rod against the blade, adjust 
  > the
  > wood to be cut until it is flush with the nut and cut an exact size. I
  > frequently end up with a bit of a bruise on my chin from holding the saw
  > down against the board, I do have a bungee cord hanging on the cabinet I 
  > can
  > use to hold the saw down to the wood while I set the distance precisely 
  > but
  > this takes time and I often don't bother.
  >
  > I can as easily use it to very accurately set the distance from rip fence 
  > to
  > blade on my table saw and so on.
  >
  > This is of course not adequate beyond 42 and a half inches although I
  > suppose you could get more rod if you need or want it.
  >
  > I do try to keep a stick or two around here precisely 4 feet long but 
  > rarely
  > do I need it. Even when I raised this addition it was mostly fine to use 
  > the
  > dimensional lumber and/or relative measures with a locking tape measure. 
  > I
  > used a block to space studs, locking tape measure to determine the actual
  > length of span for building the roof trusses, I didn't actually even have
  > the roto ruler back then but a folding meter stick ruler.
  >
  > A tactile ruler though just isn't accurate enough for cabinet work and
  > hardly for structural framing. Things like carpenter squares known to be 
  > 24
  > on the two inch leg and 16 on the inch and a half leg can also be helpful 
  > in
  > frame construction.
  >
  > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Skype DaleLeavens
  > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Scott Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:00 PM
  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] quesion on Rotomatic ruler
  >
  > > Ok folks, I ordered my Rotomatic and received it today. Ain't quite
  > > what I imagined and upon further thought, I haven't any clue how the
  > > hell you use this thing. So, here goes my question .
  > > First let me describe what I have to be sure we're all on the same 
  > page.
  > >
  > > I have a piece about six inches long, it is sort of oval shaped, in
  > > other words, its flat on both sides and is rounded on the edges so
  > > the nuts will turn. The top surface has marking at every half inch I
  > > believe this is the correct measurement,b ut in any case, we'll move
  > > along. There are two nuts, one that is completely square and the
  > > other is a six or eight-sided deal. Included are three rods that are
  > > different lengths, one six inch, one approx 12 inches, and one that
  > > appears to be about 18 inches. Sorry, I haven't even had a chance to
  > > measure the pieces, but for our purposes, this will explain things.
  > > Now each rod which is round can be screwed together and the six-inch
  > > piece I said had the nuts is also able to be attached to the rods.
  > > Now I assume that the square nut might be the locking nut, but don't
  > > hold me to this.
  > > Now, with that description, how do you actually use this thing.
  > > The folks at the NFB store where I found the item were not much help,
  > > but I guess they sell the stuff, not use it. So, perhaps someone can
  > > explain this thing to me before I decide to pack it up and send it on
  > > back up the road. Might be a great tool, but based on what I thought,
  > > I surely have no clue how you'd use it.
  > > Thanks for any assistance.
  > >
  > > Scott
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