Hi Dale,
Those slides sound pretty neat.
The last time I did anything like that I first used double sided tape to 
hold the slide in place. I have a self centering punch that I was then able 
to correctly place the screw.
This punch is spring loaded and was about $7.00. I do not remember where I 
purchased it.
I found that double sided and duct tape can act as another pair of hands.
Looks like a great project that you are constructing.
Lenny http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Rotomatic ruler


Hi Ron and Lenny,

I do have a bungee cord which I sometimes wrap around the handle and hook to
a drawer in the cabinet I made for the saw to hold it down while I measure
but I don't use it all that often.

Just now I am struggling to properly aline these drawer slides. They are
actually pretty wonderful slides however the outer segment which attaches to
the cabinet wall is a full inch wider than the removable segment which
attaches to the drawer side and all I have is about a 16th tolerance. Even
with a center punch somehow those damn screws don't quite go exactly where
they should. I was out the thickness of sand paper so the  bottom edge of
one side drags! Nothing for it but to fine tune it with the belt sander.

Tomorrow I have two half sized drawers to fit in the space on the other side
of the partition, jigging them precisely will be a real challenge. In
general I like the sort which attach to the bottom edge, simplifies locating
the slides on the drawer considerably and the wall mounted members quite a
bit.

Oh well, nothing for it but to be patient.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R & S Enterprises" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Rotomatic ruler


> May I say my chin is also used as a hold down on the mitre saw to be able
> to measure to the blade.  Just the thing to do isn't it.
> Ron
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Lenny McHugh
>  To: [email protected]
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:08 PM
>  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Rotomatic ruler
>
>
>  Dale,
>  I liked your description of using the ruler to set up your miter saw. I
>  thought that I was the only one who used his chin or cheek to hold down
> the
>  saw to align the stock. I don't know how many times my wife made a
> comment
>  when she saw me doing that. Now I can tell her that it is the proper way
> to
>  set up the saw.
>  Great description of the tool and use.
>  Lenny
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: <[email protected]>
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:41 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quesion on Rotomatic ruler
>
>  You have done pretty well at describing the rule.
>
>  The threaded rod is six and a half inches long. The large rectangular nut
> is
>  the one you most commonly use for measuring. The other nut is used
> when/if
>  you want to lock the rectangular nut into place to hold a measure or even
> to
>  use it as a sort of monster feeler gauge.
>
>  You should notice a small notch cut into one of the longer sides of the
>  rectangular nut, this is to help orient it.
>
>  You are correct, the half inch marks are where a thread is continued all
>  around the face of the milled side of the threaded rod. Each revolution
> of
>  the nut represents one sixteenth of an inch so, half a turn is a 32nd of
> an
>  inch and a quarter turn is a 64th. two complete turns is an eighth of an
>  inch and so on.
>
>  If you require more than 6 inches then you thread the 6 inch rod bringing
>  your measure up as far as 12 and a half inches, add the 12 inch rod or
> the
>  18 inch rod or any combination there of and you have the lengths you
>  require.
>
>  What I really like about the measure is that I can set a size off of a
> plan
>  or I can take a measure from a project, lock the nut into place then go
> to
>  my miter saw and pressing the end of the rod against the blade, adjust
> the
>  wood to be cut until it is flush with the nut and cut an exact size. I
>  frequently end up with a bit of a bruise on my chin from holding the saw
>  down against the board, I do have a bungee cord hanging on the cabinet I
> can
>  use to hold the saw down to the wood while I set the distance precisely
> but
>  this takes time and I often don't bother.
>
>  I can as easily use it to very accurately set the distance from rip fence
> to
>  blade on my table saw and so on.
>
>  This is of course not adequate beyond 42 and a half inches although I
>  suppose you could get more rod if you need or want it.
>
>  I do try to keep a stick or two around here precisely 4 feet long but
> rarely
>  do I need it. Even when I raised this addition it was mostly fine to use
> the
>  dimensional lumber and/or relative measures with a locking tape measure.
> I
>  used a block to space studs, locking tape measure to determine the actual
>  length of span for building the roof trusses, I didn't actually even have
>  the roto ruler back then but a folding meter stick ruler.
>
>  A tactile ruler though just isn't accurate enough for cabinet work and
>  hardly for structural framing. Things like carpenter squares known to be
> 24
>  on the two inch leg and 16 on the inch and a half leg can also be helpful
> in
>  frame construction.
>
>  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Skype DaleLeavens
>  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Scott Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: <[email protected]>
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:00 PM
>  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] quesion on Rotomatic ruler
>
>  > Ok folks, I ordered my Rotomatic and received it today. Ain't quite
>  > what I imagined and upon further thought, I haven't any clue how the
>  > hell you use this thing. So, here goes my question .
>  > First let me describe what I have to be sure we're all on the same
> page.
>  >
>  > I have a piece about six inches long, it is sort of oval shaped, in
>  > other words, its flat on both sides and is rounded on the edges so
>  > the nuts will turn. The top surface has marking at every half inch I
>  > believe this is the correct measurement,b ut in any case, we'll move
>  > along. There are two nuts, one that is completely square and the
>  > other is a six or eight-sided deal. Included are three rods that are
>  > different lengths, one six inch, one approx 12 inches, and one that
>  > appears to be about 18 inches. Sorry, I haven't even had a chance to
>  > measure the pieces, but for our purposes, this will explain things.
>  > Now each rod which is round can be screwed together and the six-inch
>  > piece I said had the nuts is also able to be attached to the rods.
>  > Now I assume that the square nut might be the locking nut, but don't
>  > hold me to this.
>  > Now, with that description, how do you actually use this thing.
>  > The folks at the NFB store where I found the item were not much help,
>  > but I guess they sell the stuff, not use it. So, perhaps someone can
>  > explain this thing to me before I decide to pack it up and send it on
>  > back up the road. Might be a great tool, but based on what I thought,
>  > I surely have no clue how you'd use it.
>  > Thanks for any assistance.
>  >
>  > Scott
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