More and more farmers these days are turning to renewing pastures and planting
crops with what is known as zero tillage,
I cannot deny that reducing expense is a driving force, but it is also a fact
that the less exposure the soil has to the compaction caused by heavy machinery
the better, as such compaction can severely damage soil structure.
In the method known as zero tillage, the green cover is sprayed off with
Roundup, and then the seed is drilled directly into the soil.
This method means that the soil and its fauna is left, relatively, undisturbed.
As I said in my earlier post, I don't give a monkey's uncle whether Monsanto
makes 5 or 6000000000 dollars profit this year.
Jewel
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Leavens
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
Why would there be Roundup in compost? Particularly in those quantities and
further, why would that even be a problem? I spray my fence lines about
three times a year and although it kills what ever green there is growing
there it certainly doesn't prevent it from coming back. I don't then harvest
the stuff for my compost stack it is true but so far the applications have
not interfered with new growth coming up.
There are pre-emergent herbicides which do persist for some time in the
soil, I don't have any real knowledge of them but some farmers do use them
to keep early emerging weeds down before planting certain crops but I don't
know where or why.
Certain forms of 2 4D which are broad leafed herbicides also persist. They
have Estrogen like compounds which produce growth and because broad leaves
absorb more they grow themselves literally to death. Trouble is that these
may also contribute to certain growth defects including in children.
Products like Weed & Feed are usually some combination including 2 4D. This
may be the worry as it is often widely used on lawns and golf courses to
keep them weed free. I confess I do generally lay down a spray in the
spring.
Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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----- Original Message -----
From: "tunecollector" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
> It sounds like you own Monsanto stock. The landfills here which once
> charged for their compost, now have to give it away, with the proviso to
> add
> plenty of dirt to the compost because of the presence of Roundup in the
> compost. If you're going to use Roundup, you may as well use vinegar.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:19 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
>
> Roundup becomes inert almost immediately on application. It doesn't poison
> the soil. It cannot be used to sterilize soil, seeds germinate and come
> right up following application of Roundup.
>
> To work it must come in contact with green living vegetation.
>
> Salt and oil and other agents, probably not bleach which will bubble off
> the
>
> chlorine fairly quickly but certainly the other agents do persist in the
> soil and migrate to other areas too.
>
> You can use Roundup directly to selectively kill individual plants. Brush
> some onto a particularly noxious weed among your beauties and it alone
> will
> die. You might like to put a cotton glove over a rubber glove and wet a
> couple of fingers in Roundup then stroke those plants you want to die. It
> doesn't even have to touch the soil.
>
> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tunecollector" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:30 AM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
>
>> Pouring vinegar onto a plant will kill the leaves but it is not effective
>> in
>> killing the roots. Adding orange oil extract to the vinegar will make it
>> a
>> more potent leaf killer. Adding salt to the soil is more effective at
>> killing the roots. Smothering the weed under plastic or five sheets of
>> newspaper is effective and does not poison the soil. Pouring boiling
>> water
>> onto a weed will harm the root hairs and the weed will wither but not
>> necessarily kill it. By its very content, Roundup is a poison and you are
>> poisoning your soil by applying it.
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>> I have been told that bleach is effective but I have no direct knowledge
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