Unfortunately, marking lines, or rather scribing them, really doesn't work very well for a blind guy. A blind guy needs to either use some variant of the method that Dale described or make a simple jig to position the hinges, to hold them in place while the screws are installed.
The jig can be as simple as a piece of hardboard with a corner removed to reveal a two sided notch that the hinge can lay in on the workpiece and be held there with double sided tape. Or another one could be made out of two pieces of wood attached at a 90 degree angle to each other. One of the strips would need 2 notches in it for the hinges to lay in as the piece is put against the edge of the board where the hinges will go. the notches need to be made in such a way as to distance the hinges from the edge of the board along the long side of the hinge and parallel to the hinge pin. The notches will also space the hinges from each other. The right angle piece of wood lies against the wide flat side of the board and positions the notches from the edge. This probably isn't a very good description, but simple jigs like this work better than trying to scribe the locations with either real squares or improvised ones. I hope this gets the thought processes working for making and using simple small jigs to accomplish these tasks. Good Luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Aligning small hinges. Sounds like in one area the carpenter's square is too large and in another area the try square is too small. I suggest making a rectangular piece of wood, say a 1/4-inch thick hardboard, of the appropriate size to use as a marking square. That way you could place it where needed and mark your lines from it. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have a question about aligning small hinges. My radio desk is finished > except for applying the finishing coat. It will sit in front of an H V A C > vent so I made a cutout in the back for the air to come through. I don't > want the cold air to blow on me when I am sitting there so I saved the > cutout peace and hinged it to make a trap door I can close when I want to. > I couldn't get the hinges aligned right. They are close enough but I wonder > if anyone has any little tricks. It is inside and the space is too > confined to get a carpenter's square inside and the hinges are too far from > the end wall for a trisquare to reach. This is done and it's not very > obvious to someone who sees the desk but if I ever have to do this again I > would like to get it right. > > Regards. > > Max. K 4 O D S. > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net > Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net > Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com > > To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:45 AM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. > > > > Thanks Larry, > > > > I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. > > > > I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of > > the > > biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It > > never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate > > way > > of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer > > bottoms and other applications. > > > > Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it > > includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering > > frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. > > > > I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to > > assemble > > drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of > > applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. > > > > Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel > > free > > to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is > > a > > clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed > > and > > I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to > > inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from > > observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or > > understanding > > which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or > > understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer > > opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as others have > > for me. > > > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Skype DaleLeavens > > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:39 AM > > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. > > > > > >> Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. > >> > >> -- > >> Larry Martin > >> Woodworking for the Blind > >> --joining the world of blind wood workers > >> > >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- > >> From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for > >>> cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit > >>> joiner > >>> or also called a plate joiner. > >>> > >>> You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry > >>> and > >>> compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in > >>> about > >>> four sizes. > >>> > >>> The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on > >>> one > >>> side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and > >>> biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The > >>> primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels > >>> suffer > >>> from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the > >>> mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of > >>> the > >>> grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is > >>> absolutely > >>> critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they > >>> must > >>> be > >>> absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error. > >>> > >>> The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded > >>> travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can > >>> set > >>> the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade > >>> will > >>> protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to > >>> be > >>> tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered > >>> assemblies > >>> and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the > >>> fence > >>> or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner. > >>> > >>> You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with > >>> the > >>> slot tight against the edge of the board holding it there using a handle > >>> built for that purpose then turn on the machine and using the other hand > >>> you > >>> force the cutter through the slot and into the edge against the springs > >>> which plunges the blade into the edge of the board. Release so it runs > >>> back > >>> out with the spring assist then release the trigger so it shuts off. > >>> > >>> When I built my work bench I made up a frame rather like the shape of > >>> angle > >>> iron using three quarters plywood one edge to the face of the other and > >>> joined those with biscuits. I then mitered the corners and joined them > >>> with > >>> biscuits and clamped them up square. I might have used screws but I > >>> never > >>> would have got the corners strong that way and doweling the edges of > >>> plywood > >>> isn't all that satisfactory or probably reliable. > >>> > >>> when the biscuits get wet with glue not only does the glue bond but they > >>> swell and actually if you don't work fairly quickly they can be very > >>> difficult to set. This can be a disat\dvantage, Norm has mentioned on a > >>> couple of shows that biscuits set too close to the surface can cause > >>> slight > >>> dimpling to telegraph through the surface as the glue ages and I suppose > >>> the > >>> wood responds to changes in environmental moisture. On a very smooth > >>> finish > >>> this can be visible. So far I haven't noticed this. > >>> > >>> There is a new unit out there, called a domino joiner I believe, cuts a > >>> more > >>> rectangular hole and uses rectangular biscuits and an oscilating cutting > >>> action. These work more like floating mortise & tennon joints. I am not > >>> otherwise sure of the advantages, if they index easily enough I suppose > >>> you > >>> could use them to join rails & styles without cutting proper mortise & > >>> tenon > >>> joints. The biscuit joiners are plenty expensive but these domino > >>> joiners > >>> are really a lot more costly. > >>> > >>> Generally the correct term is Jointer. The machine is also sometimes > >>> called > >>> a planer but more usually that refers to a device for thicknessing the > >>> face > >>> of wood or for the hand held planers more usually with a 3 inch wide > >>> cutter > >>> head intended primarily for removing stock like the edge of a door. > >>> Joiner > >>> is sometimes used to refer to a jointer and I hear it more commonly used > >>> these days but the manufacturers still seem to refer to them as > >>> jointers. > >>> > >>> Hope this helps clear things up for you. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Skype DaleLeavens > >>> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "Blind Handyman" <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:36 PM > >>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. > >>> > >>> > >>> >I have watched only one episode of the Yankee workshop and already I > >>> >have > >>> > questions. > >>> > > >>> > He did a bisket joint. They didn't show him making the bisket. Do > >>> > you > >>> > buy > >>> > them pre made? It was elliptical in shape which seems hard to make. > >>> > He > >>> > made the cutout with a plunge router which looked like he was making a > >>> > basically rectangular shaped cutout. When he dropped the bisket into > >>> > the > >>> > cutout it didn't fit at all tight. Also it went in more than half the > >>> > width > >>> > of the bisket. There was just a little peaking out. All in all this > >>> > doesn't seem like a very strong joint. In an infomercial I saw > >>> > someone > >>> > making a dowel joint. It seems to me to be a much stronger joint. > >>> > How > >>> > does > >>> > a bisket joint compare to a dowel joint. Also I'm not sure but I > >>> > think > >>> > he > >>> > was using some kind of guide to keep the router in the center of the > >>> > edge > >>> > of > >>> > the board. If there is such a thing, what is it called? > >>> > > >>> > Also a pronunciation question. Dale and I had a conversation the > >>> > other > >>> > night on FTP about a jointer. The yankee used one on the show but he > >>> > pronounced it joiner. Which is correct? Does it depend on where you > >>> > come > >>> > from? > >>> > > >>> > Regards. > >>> > > >>> > Max. 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