Larry Thank you for all your input. The one important thing I am looking for at this time since the car has no mechanical problems that I know of is the maintenance schedule. In regards to fluid changes and so on. The car has the new anti freeze and I don't know what else might be different from the old relics that I am used to maintaining. I sure don't want to dump in dexron if it calls for mercron or what ever the case is and I want to know this stuff for my self even if I have some one else do some of the service. Thanks again for all your input. BTW Great job on the BHM show I made me a CD so I can give it to some one to listen to if I wish. Regards. Robert
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 7:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Robert, What the owners manual provides you with is a basic set of operating instructions for the car. heating, A-C, rear window defroster, power accessories and peripherals, instrument read outs, control possessions and locations, tire inflation and dealer recommended maintenance schedule. Unlike the old days, you really won't find any hard service data in that book. I guess I am not certain what you are looking for specifically. Regards Larry Stansifer -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car It may be helpful at some point to have a service and repair manual like the chiltons or some other and I will check out getting one but what I was really looking for is a way to access the little owners manual that you would find in the glove box. I think for preventative maintainance and care of the machine, as to put off un nesesary repairs down the road as much as possible I would think the little owners manual should be of some help. Having never had a car that was worth reading the manual Am I any where close to correct in my presumptions? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car they are: Chilton's manuals. Motors manuals. Mitchell manuals. These are service manuals and go into a lot more detail than the owners manual does. BTW 3.1 refers to the engine displacement (3.1 Leter) F I is fuel injected and the rest of it is manufacturers code. you can probably decipher it with one of the above listed books. Regards Larry Stansifer -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Larry I some how have lost that email that you sent with the contact info about owners manuals for a 1996 Pontiac Grand AM. Would you be so kind as to post them again? Thanks. All is not lost for building a real sleeper. I still have that old s10 and I can get an old 350 crate motor with a Rochestr carb and it is a good motor. I have it in an old 77 panel truck that I used for a work truck at one point. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Robert, The three sources I sent you are shop manuals and extremely comprehensive in nature. I am not sure how expensive they are but they will sere as a great resource for you. Regards Larry Stansifer -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Larry That would be sweet to make those upgrades If I could afford it. Only one problem beside the money to do such a thing is that I picked up a Grand am, not a trams am. This is more of a standard 4 door grocery getter. Don't get me wrong it is still a sweet ride. It is a 1996 and only has 37,000 miles on it that is not 137,000 that's 37,000. and you are not going to believe this but the car has been in Minnesota the whole time and does not have a lick of rust, (What we up here call MRC, that is to say Minnesota Road Cancer) on it. The car has been meticulously maintained. It was given to us by a deer friend and he takes great care of all his stuff. That is part of the reason I want to get an owners manual, so I can keep the car in tip top shape for many years to come. Vroom Vroom. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car Robert, 96 Trans-am, hmmmmmmm... Street racer or hotrod power tour builder? Could be fun... GM crate 502, race built 4 le-60 trans, upgrade the existing disk brakes and suspension? You never know bro that could be a wild child. You might try checking out Motors manuals, Chilton's manuals or Mitchell manuals on the internet. These guys are all shop manuals and are available on CD. Regards Larry Stansifer -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Robert J. Moore Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:55 PM To: Blind Handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Owners manual for a car My Wife and I are going to be picking up a 1996 Grand Am Is there some where on line that I could get the manual to down load? If not that, does any one know if it would be available to get the owners manual on a CD so that I could read it on my computer? I don't really care what form it takes, I am just looking for any way that I can access the owners manual my self without having some one like my Wife read it to me. Personally I would find reading the manual not only informative but it would be interesting. Evie on the other hand would find it most boring and tedious. 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