I believe I called for an end to this particular topic once already. This is 
the second and final time just so everybody knows.
David Ferrin
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jennifer Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] outdoor water faucet


I am not saying that there are not knives and guns in schools now.  it is a 
problem.  However, plenty of people were bringing them to school long before 
the eighties.

Now as to the kind of parenting the school shooters have had, I was asking 
you an actual question.  Where is your research from.  Now I know.

Now as for the spanking thing.  No, I do not spank my kids.  I do make them 
do push-ups and run laps though.  I also do not let them have any 
electronics in their room, except to occasionally take a player in there to 
listen to a CD.  I am pretty strict in many ways.  Yes I could focus on this 
faucet thing, but you have to pick your battles.  I have three kids for whom 
I am primary care giver.  This is a problem I prefer to avoid than keep up 
with.

Now, if anyone who helped with my original question is still reading, I 
appreciate your answers.


Jennifer
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Trouble
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] outdoor water faucet


  you must not watch much TV, because those facts come off the nightly
  news. As far as knifes and guns in school. Does a metal detector say
  something. All grade schools up to high school in Ohio and many other
  states have them.
  Just about every school shooting has a movie done on it also does
  Columbine ring a bell?

  At 09:38 AM 5/15/2007, you wrote:

  >Where are your facts on the parenting of the school shooters coming
  >from? I know you are wrong about the knives and guns in schools.
  >Unless of course those gun racks they were toting around in their
  >trucks, especially in deer season, do not count.
  >
  >By the way, the kid in my neighborhood who defaces signs and park
  >equipment, and who stole our digital video camera is spanked. He is
  >a bully, thief, and worse. Then we met his parents and had to wonder
  >how that kid turned out so well. They acted as if it were our fault
  >that their child had stolen from us. It is parental and societal
  >values that cause these social problems, not whether we spank our kids.
  >
  >Another interesting point here is that my original post did not say
  >anything about how I disciplined my kids. I just said I wanted to
  >stop the problem before it occurred rather than getting to it after
  >the water was on and flooding my super tiny yard. Interestingly,
  >people who actually meet my kids and spend time with us regularly
  >tell me what pleasant children I have and how impressed the are with
  >my parenting.
  >
  >Now, before our moderator blows a gasket in his hurry to tell us to
  >shut up, or to remove us from the list, lets leave this subject
  >alone. If anyone wants to debate or otherwise comment further,
  >please write me off line.
  >
  >Jennifer
  >
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  >
  >

  Tim
  trouble
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