never heard of this, and I have never had an alternator die because of the
test.
I don't understand how disconnecting the battery will put an increased load
on the alternator.  maybe if it thinks the battery is dead it increases the
voltage?  but that don't sound right either, alternators put out 14-15 volts
all the time no matter the battery charge.  And no battery connected would
be like having the alternator hooked to a complete dead battery that won't
take any charge, and I have not heard of that killing the alternator.
Please explain further.  Maybe I will try this on my 05 T&C, it is under
warranty.
Michael
 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 05:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] How do I know if my alternator is charging
properly?



Michael,

If it wasn't bad before it will be after you remove a
battery cable with the engine running.
What happens is that the altrinater sees that as a humongous
load on the system and attempts to compensate for it just
prior to destroying itself.
This is a procedure that should never be performed on any
alternator equipped vehicle. The genesis of this test comes
from the days of generator equipped vehicles. The story goes
that if you remove a battery cable on a generator equipped
car and the engine dies the generator is bad.

Again guys, please don't remove battery cables with the
engine running.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Baldwin
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 7:55 PM
To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] How do I know if my alternator
is charging properly?

Good info.
The method I use, because I can't see the headlights, and I
take no responsibility for anyone getting hurt trying it, is
I start the engine, and disconnect the positive battery
cable. If the engine dies, the alternator is bad. Michael


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From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Ray Boyce
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 15:59
To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] How do I know if my alternator is
charging properly?

If your battery is dead, keeps running down or cranks your
engine slowly, 
you may have a charging problem. Likewise, if the alternator
or battery 
warning
light is on, or the amp or voltage gauge is reading low,
that too probably 
indicates a charging problem.

A quick way to check the charging system is to start the car
and turn on the

headlights. If the headlights are dim, it indicates the
lights are running off the battery and that little or no
juice is being produced by the 
alternator. If the lights get brighter as you rev the
engine, it means the 
alternator
is producing some current but may not be producing enough at
idle to keep 
the battery properly charged. If the lights have normal
brightness and don't change intensity as the engine is
revved, your charging system is 
functioning normally.

You can also check the charging system by connecting the
leads of a 
voltmeter to the battery. When the engine starts, the
charging voltage 
should jump to
about 14.5 or higher. If the reading doesn't change or rises
less than a 
volt, you have a charging problem that will require further
diagnosis.

Charging Problems

Alternators are pretty rugged, but can succumb to excessive
heat and 
overwork. They can also be damaged by sudden voltage
overloads (as when 
someone attempts
to jump start a dead battery and crosses up the jumper
connections or if 
someone disconnects a battery cable from the battery while
the engine is 
running).

Sometimes alternators can partially fail. In the back of
every alternator is

a "diode trio" that converts the alternators AC (alternating
current) output to DC (direct current). If one or more of
these diodes fail, the alternator's 
amperage output will be reduced. It may continue to produce
some current, but not enough to keep the battery fully
charged -- especially at idle or 
low speed.

Most service facilities have test equipment that can
identify these kind of 
problems. So if you suspect a weak alternator, you should
have it tested to see if it needs replacing.

Most service facilities do not repair or rebuild alternators
because it's 
too time consuming and requires special parts. Most will
replace your old 
unit
with a new or remanufactured unit. Your old alternator is
usually traded in 
or exchanged for a credit (so it can be remanufactured and
sold to someone else).

CAUTION: If you're replacing an alternator yourself, always
disconnect the 
battery before unhooking the wiring on the alternator. This
step will 
eliminate
the possibility of accidentally shorting out a hot ware and
damaging 
something or starting a fire.

The alternator drive belt should be inspected at this time,
and replaced if 
it is cracked, oil soaked, glazed, badly worn or otherwise
damaged. The belt should be adjusted for proper tension
following the vehicle manufacturer's 
guidelines. Too much tension can overload the alternator's
bearings and 
shorten
the unit's life (as well as belt life), while too little
tension may allow 
the belt to slip. 

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