Dale,
Yes the washer looks very much like a fender washer. In this house you can 
only use one every 16 inches. I never saw anything like this. between the 
2x4 (true size) there are fire bricks. The old plaster is applied to the 
brick with no lath. For one patch he used some metal lath and  used a brown 
coat first for the top coat he used a home made lime and plaster mix.
When he first helped us I thought he was nuts. He brought up two five gallon 
buckets and a large bag of lime. He divided the lime and then filled the 
buckets with water. Twice a day I had to go down and stir up the water and 
lime. Periodically he would come up and look at it. He would say it is not 
ready yet. After about three weeks he looked at it and told me that it is 
ready for use
He had special floats for this mixture. He used a magnesium float so that 
the plaster mix would not stick to the tool.I don't know where that tool is 
it would be about50 or 60 years old. I remember him keeping it wrapped up in 
felt. He told me that when he purchased it cost $85.
Wonder what it would cost today. Since there are really no plasters around I 
guess that  tool is no longer made.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] On a more serious note -with older homes


Hi Lenny,

Often they screw several screws into the old plaster outside of where the 
patch is to be cut away to hold it securely through any lath and to help 
hold the lath firm so you can cut it away before installing the patch. then, 
like you say, mud right over the lot.

In my experience and I am not a professional plasterer like your dad, the 
biggest trouble is keeping the original work from becoming damaged further 
by your work. It gets pretty brittle after all those years.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lenny McHugh
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] On a more serious note -with older homes


  Hi Lee,
  Well considering that my home was built in 1880 and has the horse hair
  plaster, I can absolutely say the answer is yes. Actually we had quite a
  few repairs the first about 33 years ago when we purchased the home. At 
that
  time my late father-in-law was a professional plasterer and stone mason.
  This home has fire brick in all of the walls and he used special plaster
  formulas for these patches. He had a file box of cement and plaster 
recipes.
  Then later we had to patch a few with sheetrock. since the actual plaster
  was not quite 1/4" thicker than the sheet rock we first used a framing
  square to mark the area around the area to be repaired. Then we carefully
  cut out the area making a relatively square hole. Then we fitted in the
  sheet rock. We followed up with a skim coat of spackling compound. We kept
  applying skim coats until the void was filled.
  What is interesting that in my home there is no lath boards on the walls.
  The plaster is just stuck to the brick and framing lumber.
  Also on the sheet rock patch we wherever possible added the large washer 
and
  screw on the old plaster fairly close to the patch. then when we spackled 
it
  we feathered over the large washer and screw.Lenny
  http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Lee A. Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "Blind Handyman" <[email protected]>
  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:39 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] On a more serious note -with older homes

  Have you ever had to match repair work of old polaster walls with just
  using what we now call wall board or sheet rock ? Lee

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