Well Janet is my dishwasher. I have nothing to say on this list about leaving the door open.
Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cy Selfridge To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 6:27 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Rockler's Guide to Choosing a Concealed Hinge Well, I will agree that that blamed dishwarsher door is a real killer.(LOL) I have some permanent scars on my shins from the blasted thing. As for the 105 degree hinges, no thanks. I would rather the door could be opened all the way back against the cabinet because, invariably, I forget to close the door and when I raise up from getting something - OWIE! It also does not help the hinges one bit to have the door elevated and then I am somewhat unhappy and will, upon occasion, slam the stupid door closed which also does not help the hardware at all. (LOL) Now, as for the dishwarsher, don't you folks warsh them dishes? Cy, the ancient oKie... _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boyce, Ray Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 4:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Rockler's Guide to Choosing a Concealed Hinge Hi Lenny The dishwasher door is another trap when left down, it catches you right across the shins and I also let out some naughty words. Ray -----Original Message----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:HYPERLINK "mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 10:26 PM To: HYPERLINK "mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rockler's Guide to Choosing a Concealed Hinge Well we have some very similar and I would never recommend the 105 degree hinge if there is a blind individual in the household Shortly after these were installed my wife was getting something out of a cabinet and left the door open until she put things down on the table. I was in the kitchen and started going outside. Well when I hit the door the screws were ripped out. Since the door does not go past the 105 degree position it became a perfect pry bar ripping the hinge out of the inside. I won't tell you the first three words that I spoke. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Boyce" <HYPERLINK "mailto:rayb101%40dodo.com.au"[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <HYPERLINK "mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:46 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rockler's Guide to Choosing a Concealed Hinge Note: If you are constructing new cabinets, Rockler strongly recommends that you choose your door hardware for your cabinet and door design before you begin construction. Concealed Hinge CabinetWhat is a Concealed Hinge? Concealed Hinges are hinges that are hidden from view and allow you to see only the surface of the door. They are sometimes called "European-style" hinges and offer a clean design look. Why choose a concealed hinge? Concealed hinges offer easier door adjustment to compensate for slight imperfections in cabinet construction. Another benefit is the ability to take a door on or off without removing the hardware. What does Rockler carry? Rockler carries hinges by Julius Blum, Inc. Blum . Blum hinges are preferred throughout the world by cabinetmakers, kitchen manufacturers and consumers. . Rockler is proud to have offered Blum Hinges for nearly 20 years. . The Blum CLIP hinge has become the industry standard for concealed hinges. . All Blum hinges are backed with a lifetime guarantee. . Blum is ISO 9001 certified which means that you are assured of consistent quality in every Blum hinge. How do I choose a Concealed Hinge? Concealed hinges are designed for two types of cabinet construction. Face Frame - Hinge mounts to outside facing frame Frameless - hinge mounts to inside cabinet wall Concealed Face Frame Hinges. Two Options To Fit Your Needs! Rockler offers two different concealed hinges for face frame applications. The hinge that you choose depends on your preferences for adjustability, degree of opening, cost, and overlay. Click one of the hinges to the right that best fits your needs. Option 1 Option 2 Blum, 2-Way, 105 Degree HingeBlum, 2-Way, 105 Degree Hinge BLUM 120° Clip Top 3-Way Face Frame Hinges Blum, 3-Way, 120 Degree Hinge ADJUSTABILITY For most applications, 2-Way adjustment (side and height) is adequate and the more economical choice. This 3-Way hinge offers the most adjustability for perfect alignment even when minor cabinet irregularities exist. DEGREE OF OPENING 105 Degrees105° 120 Degrees120° Cost Around $5.00 Per Pair Around $10.00 Per Pair Overlay Understanding Overlays) Available in 3/8'', 1/2'', 3/4'', 1-1/4'' or variable overlays. Available in 3/8'' - 5/8'', 1/2'' - 3/4'' overlays and inset. 2-Way Adjustment ADJUSTABILITY Easy 2-Way Independent Adjustments with the turn of a screw! Two separate screws allow you to make independent minor adjustments in door side or height. Side AdjustmentSide adjustment - Regulates the gaps between doors, cabinets and wall for perfect parallel alignment. Height AdjustmentHeight Adjustment - Lets you align door levels across a row of doors so they match precisely at the top and bottom. DEGREE OF OPENING The 105 degree opening provides a good choice when space is limited and other cabinet doors or walls affect the performance of the cabinet door. COST The hinges cost about $5 per pair. 3-Way Adjustment ADJUSTABILITY Easy 3-Way Independent Adjustments with the turn of a screw! Three separate screws allow you to make independent minor adjustments in door side, height or depth alignment. Side AdjustmentSide adjustment - Regulates the gaps between doors, cabinets and wall for perfect parallel alignment. Height AdjustmentHeight Adjustment - Lets you align door levels across a row of doors so they match precisely at the top and bottom. Depth AdjustmentDepth adjustment - Lets you bring any style of door into line with the vertical surface of the cabinet. DEGREE OF OPENING The 120 degree swing allows the largest opening between your two hinge choices when interaction with other cabinet doors or walls is not an issue. COST These hinges cost around $10 per pair. Understanding Door Overlay Overlay If the door is completely flush with the face frame, it uses a full inset hinge. Typical butt hinges fall into this category. If the door overlays the face frame completely, without a rabbet on the back edge, it uses a overlay hinge. The overlay can be predetermined (1-1/4'' to 1-3/8'') or variable. The advantage of a variable overlay hinge is that it can be mounted anywhere on the width of the face frame, allowing you to determine how much of the frame is visible. Since the amount of overlay you choose affects the overall width of the door, we recommend that you determine overlay and select the appropriate hinges before making or ordering your doors. How many hinges and how much adjustability? How many HingesUse the chart to determine how many hinges you'll need for the height and weight of your door. A door that is 43'' high and weighs 14 lbs. requires three hinges. If your door is only 24'' high but weighs 14 lbs., go with three hinges for maximum support and stability. Use on 5/8'' - 3/4'' doors unless otherwise noted. JIG IT for Concealed Hinges Jig-It System Two ways to drill concealed hinges! For easy and accurate Hinge installation, check out our Rockler exclusive Hinge JIG IT systems. Choose from either the Single JIG IT system, ideal for smaller jobs and drills perfect cup holes one at a time. Or, choose our Multi-Tool Rail JIG IT system, which allows drilling all the hinge cups on one door together with a single setup. Hinge cup drilling jigs - Here's an accurate and inexpensive way to set up your drill press for making holes for cup hinges. Self Centering Bits Also see our Self-Centering Bits, perfect for hinge cup mounting. The Self-Centering Bit ensures accurate hinge and hardware installations every time! The bit provides perfectly centered and straight pilot holes, so that even an amateur can install shift-free hardware that lasts. Concealed Frameless Hinges Blum Design Options: It's a question of degrees. 110 Degree Cross-Corner Hinges 170 Degree Series or Zero Clearance Mini Clip-On 26mm Clip-On Hinges 95 Degree Thick Door Clip Top Hinges 120 Degree Series Clip Top Hinges Bi-fold Hinges and 170 Degree Series The #1 choice for most applications. Rockler offers a variety of frameless hinges for many applications. The hinge that you choose depends on your application requirements and preferences; including the degree of opening and overlay. Additional benefits to Blum hinges include 3-way adjustability and a choice between self-close or free-swing action. Three-way independent adjustment means uniform cabinetry! Blum "European-style" hinges are adjustable in three ways to let you align your cabinet doors for a consistent look, even where minor cabinet irregularities exist. Side AdjustmentSide adjustment ... regulates the gaps between doors, cabinets and walls for perfect parallel alignment. Height AdjustmentHeight adjustment ... lets you align door levels across a row of doors so they match precisely at top and bottom. Depth AdjustmentDepth adjustment ... lets you bring any style of door into line with the vertical surface of the cabinet. Self-Closing versus Free Swing Hinges Self-closing hinges are an ideal for cabinets. The built-in spring pulls the door closed and holds it in a closed position, eliminating the need for catches. Free-swing hinges are most often used in furniture applications, rather than cabinet applications. Overlay or Inset - what's the difference? Here's something to consider when selecting hinges Look at your cabinet design before selecting hinges. On Eurostyle cabinets, hinges are attached directly to the cabinet side. This gives you the option of fully overlaying, half overlaying or insetting the door within the opening, . Overlay applications If you decide to use an overlay cabinet design, select full overlay hinges for the ends and half overlay hinges in the middle of a row of cabinets. Inset applications Inset doors are recessed into the cabinet carcass to create a completely flush, clean-lined look. Clip-On Clip-OnBlum'-s Clip-On feature allows you to install and remove the door without removing the hardware. To listen to the show archives go to link HYPERLINK "http://acbradio.org/handyman.html"http://acbradio.-org/handyman.-html or HYPERLINK "ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/"ftp://ftp.acbradio.-org/ acbradio--archives/-handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. 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