Actually, you can buy a fairly simple "sdud gun" that you whack with a hammer.  
The ones I've used were chambered for eigther .22 or .32 blanks.  They were 
safe enough, loud, and unforgiving if you screwed up, but they sure beat 
drilling into concrete.



 Bill Stephan
Kansas City, MO
(816)803-2469
William Stephan


-----Original Message-----
.From: "Dale Leavens"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
.Sent: 10/24/07 8:13:53 PM
.To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]>
.Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Gas charged nailers
.
.Oh yes! not framing nailers but intended for nailing wood to cement.
.
.I rented one about 20 years ago to fasten a framing system to a concrete floor 
in an office I renovated. Hell of a noise in an enclosed environment and you 
don't want to make any mistakes with that!!
.
.The fasteners get pretty expensive too.
.
.These gas nailers are mostly available in framing and roofing nail sizes. 
Hitachi,is another industrial manufacturer of the bigger ones. Mostly air is 
used for framing nailers and of course the all electric nailers apparently use 
a flywheel mechanism which spins up before driving the nail. I had always 
assumed they compressed a spring somehow with the motor but apparently not. I 
don't know how the battery staplers work, quite possibly setting a spring with 
an electro magnet. So far I have only used the sort you squeeze.
.
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.  ----- Original Message ----- 
.  From: Max Robinson 
.  To: [email protected] 
.  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:55 PM
.  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Gas charged nailers
.
.
.  I have heard tell of nail guns that use a 22 caliber blank shell to drive 
.  the nail. I think they may be framing nailers.
.
.  Regards.
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.  ----- Original Message ----- 
.  From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
.  To: <[email protected]>
.  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:46 PM
.  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Gas charged nailers
.
.  Sorry I forgot who was asking about cordless nailers and I deleted the 
.  message.
.
.  Well, they are out there but it seems that mostly for framing sized nailers 
.  and even they use a rechargeable battery to ignite the gas. Main 
.  disadvantage apparently is a slower cycle time with the main advantage being 
.  light weight and no hose. None of the reviews or news articles I saw 
.  mentioned bulk but I notice on the one lifted from ToolBarn.com and exerts 
.  pasted below that this finish nailer is also pretty wide compared with the 
.  air finish nailer I have and a lot more expensive too although not so costly 
.  if you deduct the cost of a compressor.
.
.  Here is one example of one I found.
.
.  Paslode IM200-F18 Cordless 18 Gauge Brad Nailer 901000
.  Cordless 18 Gauge Brad Nailer 901000
.  Paslode
.
.  Paslode IM200-F18
.
.  Cordless 18 Gauge Brad Nailer 901000
.  List Price: $480.00
.  Your Price: $252.00
.
.  Normally ships in 10 - 14 business days
.  List of 6 items
.  Features
.  Specs
.  Applications
.  In The Box
.  Accessories
.  Write a Review
.  list end
.  misc/features
.
.  Features
.  List of 6 items
.  . Cordless - Featuring ImpulseĀ® Technology. No hoses or compressors needed
.  . Quick-Clear Nose - Should nail jam occur
.  . Adjustable Work Contact Element - Provides control of nail setting depth
.  . Drives 18 Gauge Finish Nails - Leaves small hole
.  . Powerful Motor - Drives 5/8" to 2" fasteners into the hardest woods
.  . Long Narrow Nose - Precise placement of fasteners in tight spots
.  list end
.  misc/specifications
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.  Specs
.  List of 14 items
.  . Cycle Rates:
.  . Continuous Operation: 1,000 nails/hr
.  . Intermittent Operation: 2-3 nails/second
.  . Fuel Cell Life: 1,200 nails (approx)
.  . Battery Charge: 4,000 nails (approx)
.
.  General Specs
.  . Weight: 4.9 lbs. with battery
.  . Height: 11 1/2 in.
.  . Length: 11"
.  . Width: 3-1/2"
.  . Nail Range: 5/8" to 2"
.  . Magazine Type: Straight
.  . Nail Capacity: 100 (2 strips)
.  . Fasteners: Straight Finish Nails 5/8" - 2" 18 Gauge Smooth Galvanized
.  . Part Number: 901000
.  list end
.  Shipping weight: 11.50 lbs.
.  misc/applications
.
.  Applications
.  List of 18 items
.  . Lattice Strip Molding
.  . Cove Molding
.  . Shoe & Base Moldings
.  . Spindles (top & bottom)
.  . Cove Fastening Underneath Stair Tread
.  . Risers (side & front)
.  . Top of Balusters (spindles)
.  . Knee Wall
.  . Handrail Mitered Corners
.  . Scribe Molding 1/4"
.  . Panel Installation
.  . Wainscoting
.  . Chair Rail
.  . Crown Molding Outside Corners
.  . Window Casing
.  . Door Casings
.  . Book Cases
.  . Decorative Trim
.  list end
.  misc/standardequip
.
.  In The Box
.  List of 6 items
.  . Convenient Carrying Case
.  . Rechargeable Battery
.  . Battery Charger
.  . Safety Glasses
.  . Owners Manual
.  . Extra Allen Wrench
.  list end
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