IMO, the primer is not over kill. It cleans the PVC, and starts to soften the plastic, and gets it ready to be solvent welded. A joint done with the primer and glue will be stronger and last longer then a joint done with just glue. Some places it is code to use the primer, that is why the PVC primer is purple, the inspector can see that it was used at a glance. In most situations, it might not make a difference, but for the small cost and time involved, you might as well prepare your PVC properly. small art brushes work well to apply the primer and solvent, instead of the applicator on the lid. Michael
_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Przybylek Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 13:40 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Follow-up To PVC Question For The Experts Hi Dale, The cleaner might just do the trick. I've seen the stuff on the shelf at the store but always thought it was one of those overkill items. Since I always do a thorough job of cleaning before glueing, I never really saw the need for a special cleaner. I'll have to give it a try. I'll send a review to the list after my next plumbing project. I just finished the current project about two hours ago and I couldn't be happier. Man do I hate plumbing. Well, now that the project's done, it's time for a couple of cold ones and a fine Cuban out on the front porch. The weatherman says it's 72 out there right now. Unusual for this time of year. Well, enough of this babbling and on to the cold ones and that fine Cuban. Take care,] Ed _____ From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:24 AM To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Follow-up To PVC Question For The Experts There is a cleaner you can apply before glue. I have never used it but in some places it is required to pass building inspection. It is coloured so it can be seen by the inspector. Perhaps this would make the pipe more slippery and allow the fittings to bottom out better. They can be hard to seat fully it is true. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> net Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Przybylek To: BlindHandyMan Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:33 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Follow-up To PVC Question For The Experts Hi all, Thanks to everyone for their help on my PVC question. I got a lot of useful information from the various replies. I'm afraid, though, that I might not have made myself very clear. Whenever I do a job using PVC, the first thing I do is measure everything as carefully as I can and then I cut all my PVC pipe. I then sand down the edges of each pipe to help it slide into the appropriate fittings. Then I dry fit all the pipes and fittings together to make sure everything is correct. Here's where my problems begin. When dry fitting everything together, many of my pieces of pipe do not slide completely into the various fittings. The pipe will slide into a fitting about half way and then bind up. They bind up so tightly, sometimes, that I have a hell of a time pulling them apart. This being the case, when looking at a project that has just been dry fitted, it looks like many of my pieces of pipe are a little too long. This is because the pieces have not completely slid into the fittings at each end of the pipe. Once glue is applied to the pieces of pipe, however, the pipe has no trouble sliding completely into the fitting, almost as if it were lubricated. That's why I asked if there was some acceptable amount one could subtract from each pipe measurement that would allow the pipes to dry fit better to give a better representation of what the final project would look like. This can't be too much of a fudge factor because the pipe lengths in the final result might appear to be a bit short. Possibly, I'm asking the wrong question. Probably what I should be asking is if there is something that I can do to get my PVC pipe pieces to slide completely into the various fittings during the dry fit step so that I get a very accurate representation of what my project will look like once it's flued together. If this is still clear as mud, please ask any questions you might have. I'm sure, once I get over this hurdle, my plumbing projects will improve a great deal. Again, any help greatly appreciated. Take care, Ed [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
