Hi Lenny,

That sounds like a variation on the theme of Danish Oil finish. If it is a wipe 
on and it probably is, you should not have any trouble getting a really nice 
finish and good coverage, just don't fall victim to my tendency to apply too 
much. The first coat or so will tend to darken the wood at least a little and 
bring out the grain a little better. Depending on the oil content subsequent 
coats may darken further that will be the only variable and there isn't 
anything wrong with that except that being blind it is hard to know when to 
quit.

Of course what you have there might not darken as you go.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lenny McHugh 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 1:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] furniture wood finishes


  Hi Dale and David,
  I purchased a product from the Wood Craft store. It is a mix of tong oil and 
  polyurethane. On many of the Woodworks shows David Marks uses this blend on 
  most of his projects. He uses several coats. I planned on using on one 
  project but the boss decided that she wanted a much darker stain. Well that 
  is her department.
  Anyway, from the way he described using the product I think a blind 
  individual could use it.I think in the next few weeks I will get a scrap 
  piece of different woods and glue them together and wipe on the mix. Karen 
  will then be able to tell me how well I covered and how it brings out the 
  grain in the different woods.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] furniture wood finishes

  Hi David,

  Well of course there is Formica or Arborite of course, very durable and a 
  blind person can apply that as well as a sighted person but I rather think 
  that isn't what you were thinking of <GRIN>

  For a wood finish you probably want to colour the surface a little depending 
  on the wood. That is a matter of taste and probably a nod is as good as a 
  wink to a blind wood worker. I have applied a lot of stain in the past but 
  now I generally try to get a sighted person to do it. There is going to be 
  dispute here about that but what I can tell you for sure is that stain is 
  absorbed variably by wood, different parts will absorb more than others and 
  some woods don't take stain willingly and will look blotchy and a blind 
  person won't know that. I have discovered that few sighted people will be 
  honest about it either particularly if they are close to you and very 
  particularly when criticizing work you are justifiably proud of. One of the 
  characteristics of a good stained wood surface is blending of the lighter 
  often denser parts with the softer bits of the grain and I don't believe the 
  blind can do this, probably many low vision can but the same caveat applies, 
  lots of low vision people I
  know don't see lots of things as well as they think they do, I experienced 
  that myself as my little bit of vision failed.

  OK, that is the colour and there are some ways around that too, things like 
  Danish oil finish will colour the wood a little or even boiled linseed oil 
  or tong oil rubbed thoroughly in and excess wiped off and you can repeat it 
  a couple or three times. Danish oil also contains some varnish and it will 
  turn the wood surface increasingly orange, This can be very attractive I 
  understand to a point but too much and it really gets quite orange.

  My very favourite top coat finish is one or other variety of Hand Wipe Poly 
  by Minwax. It comes in high and satin, maybe there are three grades I don't 
  remember. What I buy comes in a square quart can with a pop-up lid, you 
  apply it to a lint free cloth I tear up old ginch or sheets, something with 
  a little cotton to absorb some of the liquid.

  You apply it in thin coats quite quickly that is important to get it on and 
  you and your rags out of it so as not to get tracks in the finish. As a 
  blind person you can then go around the edges, get into any routed profiles 
  and be pretty confident you got full coverage.Because you will apply several 
  coats the chances are darn good that any areas you didn't hit well one time 
  will be covered next time and you get a good opportunity to evaluate your 
  work between coats.Several coat of the high gloss makes a deep shiny clear 
  surface which is quite durable and you are always free to touch it with 600 
  grit paper and wipe another coat over if it gets a little beat up.

  The trick is to start with a good preparation. Even after stain I recommend 
  a little buff with very fine paper to knock down any fuzz the liquid might 
  bring up in the grain and if more than one coat of stain will be applied 
  then go over between the coats with a touch of fine paper.

  You will get little dust nibs, little flicks of something between coats 
  unless you have a positive pressure air tight finishing room so they say I 
  don't have one and I am not sure I believe them, I think somehow you will 
  still get some of what I call fly shit in it even there. I usually vacuum 
  and always tac it off after every application of buffing and as close to 
  applying the next coat as I can. I may not use a vacuum cleaner too close to 
  applying a coat of poly because the exhaust can kick up a load of airborne 
  particles which will be attracted to your sticky finished surface. You can 
  make your own tac cloth with a touch of solvent but it isn't all that 
  expensive and I keep it in a zip closed sandwich bag between uses and hope I 
  can find it next time I need it. I also might use a paint scraper very 
  carefully and gently between coats to knock off the nibs but I try to get 
  the surface as near perfect as I can before adding the next coat even if it 
  means rubbing off most of the
  previous coat.

  I have some pumice and some rottenstone but I am disappointed in their 
  performance. I do like something they call rubbing compound I get it in a 
  can like a can of car wax and I get it from a hardware store made by several 
  companies for polishing cars it actually lifts a very thin layer of the car 
  paint restoring the original luster and colour. It does a similar thing to 
  your poly finish, it goes on finely gritty and you buff it off like you 
  would hard wax then tac all of the residue away . This really prepares the 
  surface for the last coat or two. Wipe those last coats on particularly thin 
  just to hide any scratches and because it is so thin it dries fast so those 
  flies have to be really quick to leave their nibs in the finish.

  The gloss is pretty hard and durable. I have also brushed on a thin couple 
  of coats of the high gloss poly they recommend for hard wood floors, at the 
  last top coats, that can set up just like glass and if necessary you can rub 
  even the final coat down once it is really well set up.

  Another beautiful finish you can happily apply as a blind person is french 
  polish. This is done with shellac. The trouble is that it is not resistant 
  to alcohol and some other products. You can however always restore it too.

  I recommend a careful sighted person to apply the colour to the depth and 
  degree they find pleasing then you go to it with the Hand Wipe Poly.

  Hope this gives you help. There will be dozens of recommendations, one thing 
  I have noticed is that each wood working magazine has an article of wood 
  finishing secrets pretty well each month so there is disagreement among the 
  sighted too.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  Skype DaleLeavens
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Sexton
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 7:18 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] furniture wood finishes

  What is the best finish for a piece of furniture like a dining room table 
  that a blind person can apply independently?
  Sure I can find the answer of which finish is the best, but which one 
  would actually look good if I used it myself?
  David

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