Tom asked. How would these things get up stairs?
The same way the Dalix do. Not sure of the spelling. Think Doctor who. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "tunecollector" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] guide robots >I wanted to know something more basic than that. How would these things >get > up stairs? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Tom Fowle > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] guide robots > > Dan has many good points as to why this kind of device is much > farther off than the writer thinks. > > We at Smith-Kettlewell have been working on parts of this kind of > thing for years mostly using computer vision techniques. > > The successes, too put it mildly have been lacking. > > With all the power of a modern fast laptop and a > very clever algorythm, a computerized vision system takes 15 to > thirty seconds to tell if there is a print sign in a still photo > containing a clearly visible sign. > > A recent test in which I participated as a subject was of a > system to try to find a cross walk at an intersection. This was > looking for the kind of cross walk with large crosswise stripes, > not just parallel edge lines. > > The test was a complete failure, the thing was neither consistant > or accurate. > > computers, no matter with what kinds of sensors, just don't do > well loking at the real world. They only do well dealing with > carefully devised set of specific circumstances from which they > must choose. > > The one area that seems to be the exception to this conclusion is > speech recognition, that seems to be getting pretty darned good. > > It would be very interesting to know, in the robotic car > challenge, just how many of the obstacles that faced the cars > were defined in the protocol and how many things were completely > unexpected. > > How many pedestrians jumpped out in front of those babies when > they shouldn't have. > > How many cars were where they shouldn't have been etc. > > To summarize, I've heard this line of 'reasoning' for over 40 > years now and I am not impressed with it. > > It's a very long way off of reality > > I remember a science fiction story from many years ago wherein > they had little such helpers that sat on your shoulder. > > They helped you keep your schedules, did your phone calling etc. > > Pretty soon somebody got the idea to have them hooked into your > blood stream to deliver appropriate psycho active medications in > case you got too excited, too rebelious, too sleepy etc. > > If you dcan't see the ending of that one, you're too optomistic! > <GRIN> > > Not holding my breath. > > Tom Fowle > Smith-Kettlewell Rehab Engineering Research Center > > Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Registered > > > > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ > > Visit the archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > If you would like to join the Blind Computing list, then visit the > following address for more information: > http://jaws-users.com/mailman/listinfo/blind-computing_jaws-users.com > > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: > 12/16/2007 11:36 AM > >
