excellent information here Dale and thanks for sharing. I picked up 
one  other new bit of  thought. and that was setting the furnace fan 
to run more often or steady.  that came up in a conversatin as I am 
considering   in the future of replacing our near 21 year  old Hot air 
Ng  furnace.  one of the choices was a 2 stage   fan system. either way 
this is  good information. thankws.Lee


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10:15:06PM -0500, Dale Leavens wrote:
> Setback Thermostats | CMHCThis is some information I found at Canadian 
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>                   The following fact sheet is part of the About Your House 
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>                   Setback Thermostats
>                   What is a Setback Thermostat?
>                   Thermostats control heating and cooling appliances in 
> houses. A setback thermostat gives the user the option of changing the 
> temperature setting automatically during the nights and during the work day 
> when the occupants have left the house. A setback thermostat can help reduce 
> overall household energy consumption.
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>                   A conventional thermostat simply regulates house heating at 
> one temperature. For instance, in the winter, if you set the thermostat to 
> 20°C (68°F), it will activate the heating system when the house temperature 
> drops below 20°C and will shut the system off when the house air warms up 
> past 20°C.
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>                   A setback thermostat contains an electronic clock. It can 
> automatically turn down the temperature setting at night, when you are 
> asleep, or midday, when you are at work. It can also return the temperature 
> to a more comfortable level before you wake up or arrive home from work. That 
> way you can have the energy savings of a lowered thermostat setting without 
> the discomfort of having to wait for the house to heat up again.
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>                   The setback thermostat can also be used as a set-forward 
> thermostat for an air conditioning system. It can allow the house to heat up 
> when it is unoccupied and return it to comfortable temperatures before you 
> return from daytime activities.
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>                   Although this About Your House deals with setback 
> thermostats and forced-air heating systems generally, you can apply some of 
> the advice to electric baseboards or to summer usage.
> 
>                   You can use a standard thermostat to set your house 
> temperatures lower during times when the house is unoccupied. This will lead 
> to similar energy savings as with a setback thermostat but not the 
> convenience.
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>                   What is a Normal House Temperature?
>                   CMHC has randomly surveyed Canadian houses. Thermostat 
> settings in winter tend to be quite closely grouped around 20°C ??? 21°C 
> (68°F ??? 70°F). Summer temperatures range much more widely, depending upon 
> whether the house has air conditioning.
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>                   To What Temperature Should I Set Back the Thermostat?
>                   The more you reduce the thermostat setting, the greater the 
> possibility for savings. Generally, a drop of two degrees will lead to some 
> savings and little risk. Some householders reduce temperatures four to six 
> degrees. However, temperature differences this large create potential comfort 
> and moisture problems that are discussed below.
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>                   Does Setting Back the Temperature Save Energy?
>                   Yes. Research from the Canadian Centre for Housing 
> Technology, shows that winter setbacks for the houses tested would result in 
> heating costs savings of five to fifteen per cent. The highest savings came 
> with a setback of six degrees.
> 
>                   Savings for summer were about the same, although simply 
> raising the thermostat set point in summer from 22°C (71°F) to 24°C (75°F) 
> led to more significant savings than the set-forward strategy and offers 
> better indoor humidity control.
> 
>                   Note that these savings are for two airtight, 
> well-insulated, unoccupied houses. The savings in your home may vary, but are 
> likely to be in the same range.
> 
>                   What Can Go Wrong?
>                   There are several potential problems.
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>                   The first one is comfort. A cool house can be uncomfortable 
> in the winter. If you wake up at night before the time the thermostat resets 
> to 20°C or 22°C, the rooms will be cooler. The same applies if you have a 
> setback daily when you leave for work, but you return home earlier.
> 
>                   A setback schedule works best for people with predictable 
> work and sleep periods. If your schedule is completely irregular, you might 
> as well simply turn down a conventional thermostat when you sleep or leave 
> the house, rather than trying to anticipate it with a setback thermostat.
> 
>                   A second problem is the possibility of high humidity in the 
> winter.
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>                   Cool air can hold less moisture than warm air, so the 
> relative humidity (RH) rises as the air cools. For instance, house air at a 
> reasonable 35 per cent RH at 22°C will see an increase to 50 per cent RH when 
> the same air is allowed to cool to 16°C
>                   (6°F). This can lead to condensation on windows and walls 
> (for instance, in closets or behind furniture).
> 
>                   Basically, you are creating a more humid environment, all 
> things considered, when you allow the house temperature to drop 
> significantly. This may not be a problem in a dry house or one where you can 
> modify the humidity, for instance by turning off a humidifier. The house 
> humidity should be monitored, especially in winter. For more information on 
> how to measure humidity in houses, go to Measuring Humidity in Your Home.
> 
>                   Window condensation will be the first place that you notice 
> excessive house humidity. Blinds and curtains usually increase the occurrence 
> of condensation. If condensation is taking place, make sure that you wipe it 
> up diligently or raise the temperature setback (eg. from 16°C to 17°C) until 
> you have lowered house humidity levels and condensation is no longer a 
> problem.
> 
>                   A third potential problem is a sustained lack of air 
> circulation as the house cools down.
> 
>                   If you set back your thermostat in the evening from 20°C to 
> 16°C, the house may not cool to 16°C until 5 a.m. During that time, there 
> will be no furnace circulation fan operation, unless you set the fan to run 
> it continuously. For houses where bedroom doors are kept closed, this could 
> lead to stuffiness in those rooms and a lack of fresh air.
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>                   There are ventilation devices and furnace fan cycling 
> controls that can compensate for this, if you find bedrooms and other rooms 
> underventilated during setback periods. Setting back to a higher temperature, 
> such as 18°C (64°F), will reduce the period of furnace inactivity (and your 
> consequent savings). Setting the furnace fan to run continuously will help 
> but this will increase electricity consumption.
> 
>                   The final potential problem with setback thermostats is the 
> time required to regain temperature, or to heat the house up once more.
> 
>                   An oversized furnace will return the house to the higher 
> temperature quickly, but a properly sized furnace can take a long time ??? as 
> much as one hour ??? to bring the house back to a comfortable temperature. 
> You have to experiment with this as it will depend on the type and relative 
> size of your heating equipment and your home???s energy efficiency and other 
> factors.
> 
>                   If it takes an unacceptably long time for your house to 
> heat up again, consider a smaller setback or start the high temperature 
> setting earlier so that it is comfortable for you when you get out of bed or 
> return from work.
> 
>                   Related to this problem is the length of time required for 
> the room enclosure and furnishings to heat up. If your bathroom has cooled to 
> 16°C overnight and the furnace has kicked in at 6 a.m. to bring up the heat, 
> your bathroom walls will still be cool when you start a shower at 7 a.m. 
> Testing in the research house at the Canadian Centre for Housing Technology 
> house showed that it takes up to several hours for wall temperatures to 
> return to their highest temperature. Cool wall surface temperatures can lead 
> to comfort and condensation problems.
> 
>                   What Houses Have the Greatest Risk for Problems?
>                   Many houses will not see significant problems with the use 
> of setback thermostats, but there will be some houses more at risk.
> 
>                   If you have a house with moisture problems in winter (mold, 
> condensation on windows, and so on), get those problems fixed before you 
> consider installing a setback thermostat or set back your conventional 
> thermostat.
> 
>                   If you have a forced-air furnace and closed bedroom doors, 
> you will need to ensure adequate ventilation of bedrooms at night, one way or 
> another. If you already keep your house at an unusually low temperature (such 
> as 18°C), then a temperature setback is more apt to get you into the high 
> humidity danger zone. If you are the sort of person who has difficulty 
> operating a VCR or DVD player, you will find many electronic thermostats 
> confusing, especially when compared to the simplicity of an older dial 
> thermostat.
> 
>                   So, How Do You Set These Things Anyhow?
>                   Check your manual or ask a teenager to do it. We can???t 
> help you with this. Each system is different.
> 
>                   All These Problems ??? Is It Worth the Trouble?
>                   Yes, it can be worth the trouble. If your house is in good 
> condition, if you do not have excessive moisture problems, if you have a 
> fairly regular schedule, then by all means use a setback thermostat. It will 
> save energy. Just be aware that all energy-saving activities can have 
> unexpected results, such as those outlined in this article and be sure to 
> take steps to avoid these problems.
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