THanks and yes, the coil packs are a great idea. I wish more engines  
would use them. They are also fairly inexpensive at about $35 or $40  
if I recall. Yes, I agree on the tools. I have what I would consider a  
nice Craftsman set that I stupidly got some cheaper extensions that  
weren't craftsman and so I really need to chuck those and get some  
real extensions. Will the Snap-on  or Mac folks sell to individuals? I  
was under the impression they sold mostly to businesses. I am glad  
this isn't the six cylinder model since I gather getting to those  
plugs requires damn near pulling the engine.

tnx

On May 31, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Bob Kennedy wrote:

> I haven't looked at that particular engine in a while but you should  
> feel good. The coil pack replaces the distributor and plug wire  
> though, not the plug.
>
> One thing you will learn as you work on cars. You get what you pay  
> for in tools. And sometimes you pay for what you got if you went  
> bargain hunting. I have a plug socket from Snap-On that swivels and  
> is pinned to a 12 inch extension. The plug fits tightly into the  
> socket and there is no chance of the socket ever staying behind.
>
> As engine compartments got tighter and tighter I ended up with a lot  
> of odd lengths of extensions and so on.
>
> You'll hear Larry and me talk about our air wrenches a lot. That's  
> because you can put a socket on one and only have to squeeze the  
> trigger to take a plug bolt out. I'm not too big on putting plugs  
> back in with mine because I don't like slamming a plug home with  
> aluminum heads. Or cast for that matter. An air wrench is a bit of  
> over kill if you don't own one but there are pieces out there you  
> can get to do the job. You can always have a Snap-On or Mac tool  
> person call you and you can tell them what you are looking for. They  
> talk to mechanics daily and know what a lot of them prefer for  
> tools. I'd bet they have just what you need if you want it.
>
> BTW, good idea to leave the engine in during a tune up... hahaha
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Howell
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:55 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] changing spark plugs on my Jeep
>
> Well, this is for sure one handi-man project. I have never tried
> changing plugs on a vehicle, but thanks to the designer of the Jeep
> Grand CHerokee with the 4.7L V8, it is possible to reach all 8 plugs.
> Well ok, I've changed 6 of the 8, but had to stop as I couldn't get
> all the way in to the final two on either side. They are partially
> under the point where the passenger cabin begins and there's a lot of
> crap in the way. I couldn't even get a universal socket attachment
> including my extension in there so a friend of mine is going to look
> and see if I can use his spark plug socket that has a universal
> attachment on it. In any event, I feel pretty good about doing
> something like this as I really had little idea what the hell I was
> doing. The Jeep uses coil packs and these are about 6-8 inches in
> length and it takes the place of the spark plug. The tricky part is
> not just unbolting them from the mounting, but you have to pull them
> out and either set them aside or unplug them and completely pull them
> out. Then you have to get down into the point where the spark plug
> lives and that's in a hole that is about 2 or 3 inches deep. So, you
> have to do all this without loosing the damned socket in the process
> as it sometimes wanted to stay behind. Of course taping it to the
> extension helped some, but it was still interesting. It sure would
> have been easier if I could have pulled the engine perhaps, but that
> would be overkill of course. grin
> So, hey, just had to tell the group how much fun I had and trying to
> get this all done between storms. I guess if I could have taken more
> time, I probably could have found some way to get at the last two, but
> it just means I get to go buy a new extension and socket if this
> universal type works. The extension I had was kind of cheap and the
> socket didn't want to hold on quite as well as it should have. It had
> some odd flared end so it starts a little wide, then narrows a bit to
> the shaft. I think the idea is that the socket would be less likely to
> come loose, but in fact if it does, the socket now wobbles about and
> I'd rather just have it pull loose than be wobbling about and possibly
> cause more problems.
>
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>
> 

Scott Howell
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