The pipe on mine will be at least 9 feet off the ground, so snow build up 
shouldn't be an issue, at least I hope not.
David Ferrin
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] the furnace is on order


> Well, mine has an elbow but it is only about 20 inches above grade. 
> Usually there is enough heat to more or less keep the snow away clear but 
> my house is very well insulated and quite air tight so the furnace doesn't 
> work all that hard when it is warm enough to snow and if the wind banks it 
> up while the furnace isn't cycling a lot it can cover over the end of the 
> exhaust. When the furnace does cycle on it may work a time or two but this 
> only serves to melt some snow and condense some vapor and form a nice ice 
> bubble.At night my thermostat cuts back to 16C or about 62F at about 10:30 
> and doesn't come back up until 7 the next morning. A lot of snow can build 
> up in that time.
>
> What I intend to do is create a box with horizontal slats but tilted to 
> shed snow and water maybe about a cubic meter so there is always some 
> space around the outlet. I might extend a three or four inch pipe up from 
> it with a hat so that there is always some ventilation or maybe even a 
> length of weeping tile just to make sure there will always be more than 
> enough escape.
>
> When properly installed the exhaust also slopes toward the outside so that 
> any water condensing will run down hill to the outside.
>
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Lee A. Stone
>  To: [email protected]
>  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:43 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] the furnace is on order
>
>
>
>  Might I suggest once you figure out Dale what you are going to do to
>  prevent snow drifts , etc from blocking up your heating system that
>  you first get a Canadian and then american Patent. . apparently when
>  new heating system ideas come out they do not test in all types of
>  situations , well the way I found out about putting the elbow on is
>  because of what I listened to on the radio during the blackout of 87.
>  it was a flaw in the original design. Now the other problem which I am
>  thinking you have with the snow, as we do. where we never had snow
>  drifts ten or fifteeen yearts ago we might have now because of the
>  change in storms as well as the winds. . I'd be interested on finding
>  out what Geno had at the end of his pipes if anything after he had a
>  new system installed last year up in Maine. or any other person who has
>  a new furnace with this type of exhaust. Lee
>
>  On Tue,
>  Jul 08, 2008 at
>  09:27:33PM -0400, Dale Leavens wrote:
>  > Do be aware that the intake and the exhaust can become blocked by snow, 
> it happens to me most every year at some point. The safety devices sense 
> if there is too much resistance to the exhaust and they won't allow the 
> furnace to ignite. What can happen is a drift of snow will cover the 
> outlet, it may work fine for a cycle or two but the exhaust gasses aren't 
> very hot, maybe 80 or so degrees and full of vapor. This can form ice 
> around the exhaust and seal it up pretty snug.
>  >
>  > I intend this year to make something of a vented box to place over my 
> exhaust to create a large open area in the hope that this will help keep 
> the end clear. It is a difficult thing to get to in my situation , the 
> other side of the house to the drive and generally there is a drift at the 
> corner of the house about 6 feet deep to wade through.
>  >
>  > Still, it is a lot better than climbing up on the roof. Usually it 
> happens after one of those blizzard downfalls where driving snow forms a 
> thick deep drift.
>  >
>  > anyway, you will probably be happy with the new furnace.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: Don
>  > To: [email protected]
>  > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:55 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] the furnace is on order
>  >
>  >
>  > Great idea on the vent pipe. It should be great this winter. Keep warm 
> for less money, that couldn't be all bad.. Regards
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: David Ferrin
>  > To: [email protected]
>  > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:06 AM
>  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] the furnace is on order
>  >
>  > We've decided to go with the 95% efficiency model furnace. It's $240 
> more than the 94% unit but I figure with the price of natural gas and 
> electric spiking around here almost every day that minor cost adjustment 
> won't even be noticeable at all. It's a Lennox if I spell that correctly 
> unit and the guy first said they vent them out the roof but I killed that 
> idea toot sweet. I said vent it out the side of my house which in fact is 
> not the storm side which is closer to where the furnace room is located. 
> He said that he had already been up on roofs shoveling snow off of the 
> vent pipe so a customer's furnace would light but like I said not here no 
> way. I'm sure as many of you out there know if that vent pipe gets blocked 
> your furnace is not going to do it's thing. It will be no sooner than next 
> month some time, when exactly though I have no idea. With 2 guys it is 
> billed as a 1 day job as the saying goes a turn key system. I'll post more 
> if anybody is interested as things progre
>  > ss.
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