Some Home Depots rent tools.  I have rented a large snake from them and it has 
a bit of a blunt nose on it.  It's for busting through a clog and the tip isn't 
pointed enough to hurt your pipe.  I know the kind of pipe you have, it can be 
bent without damaging it.  But the ribs inside collect junk and that's how the 
back up starts.  

Get a nice long snake and have at it.  


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward Przybylek 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:41 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Outdoor Drain Problems


  Hi Bob,

  I ran the garden hose through the pipe and it drains fine as long as I don't
  open the faucet completely. Whenever the faucet is opened too much, the
  water begins backing out of the pipe bypassing anything I use to plug the
  pipe. I'm not sure where the pipe ends so I can't attack the problem from
  that end.

  The pipe is about 4 inches in diameter so putting a snake through it
  shouldn't be a problem. I own a standard snake and I'll give that a try
  first. If that doesn't work, I'll see if they have something I can rent at
  Home Depot with a little more muscle. Not enough muscle, though, to
  possibly cause damage to the pipe. Thanks.

  Take care,

  Ed

  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:58 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Outdoor Drain Problems

  Ed,

  Have you tried flushing it with a garden hose? Do you know where the drain
  ends? You could run the hose in at the landing and have someone watch the
  other end. Maybe you could rent a pressure washer. That would move water
  through the pipe faster and in effect erode the build up of gravel and dirt.

  On a safer and less aggressive level, you can always rent a hand powered
  auger to run through the line. Turning the corners is a bit tricky but it
  can be done if the diameter is large enough. We're talking an inch and a
  half or so to turn the corners. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward Przybylek 
  To: BlindHandyMan 
  Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:17 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Outdoor Drain Problems

  Good afternoon gentlemen and gentle women,

  My basement has a door leading out the back of the house to the backyard.
  Just outside the door is a 5 by 5 landing and 5 or 6 stairs going up to
  ground level. At the center of the landing, there is a drain to prevent
  water build-up at the bottom of the stairs. The drain pipe is made of
  corrugated plastic. It goes down about a foot and then makes a right angle
  to go off underneath the basement. A couple years ago, I noticed that water
  was beginning to drain down the pipe at a reduced rate. Using my shop vac
  and an extra long hose, I tried vacuuming outh the pipe. What I sucked out
  of the drain was about 10 pounds of gravel along with some twigs and other
  plant debris. I was able to push the shop vac hose down the pipe about 10
  feet before it refused to go any further. I decided there was probably
  another right angle in the pipe and that the hose probably wasn't going to
  go much further. At one point, someone had kicked the cover off the drain
  and neglected to put it back. This would explain the plant matter in the
  pipe. I have no idea of how the gravel would have gotten into the drain.
  Any ideas? The cleaning helped the drain a lot so I figured the problem was
  solved. This year, however, the water at the bottom of the stairs began
  drainging slowly again. I decided to call the good folks at RotoRooter and
  have them come take a look. I've heard they can do wonderful things with
  such problems. After pulling the drain cover and peering down into the
  pipe, one of the guys told me he was sure they could help. The cost, he
  said, would be $270 and, because he thought it wouldn't take them all that
  long, that he wouldn't charge me the $185 that they usually charged to feed
  a video camera down the pipe. When I asked about a guarantee for the work
  they did, I was told they do not give a guarantee because they really didn't
  know what they were getting into until they fed the video camera into the
  drain. I decided to try a couple of things on my own before shelling out
  that kind of money for something that may or may not work. I've heard of
  power snakes that can be rented from the local Home Depot or Lowe's. I'm a
  little leary of using such a tool because the pipe is plastic and some of
  what I'll be trying to remove, I'm sure, will be more gravel. So, gentlemen
  and gentle women, I once again stand before you, with hat in hand, seeking
  any sage advice you may have on how to unclog a clogged drain. Thanks.

  Take care,

  Ed Przybylek (the one who really hates plumbing)

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