I agree with you all.  Problem is there wasn't any way i could hang down far 
enough to assemble metal duct work in the stairwell ceiling void. I had to fish 
with wire hooks to catch and manipulate things around.   I used the 4 inch all 
the way and used a 4 inch take off right out of the fan housing.  Still about 
five times larger than the ductless opening.  So the fan is ducted and better 
than not ducted.  Isn't there a song about a lot of compromising  on the road 
to my horizons?
Ron
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] current project


  And the walls are not smooth which increases the turbulence and slows the 
flow of air which will further reduce efficiency and cause even more grease to 
drop out.

  The correct way is a transition from the rectangular port to a 7 inch round 
smooth walled metallic duct or to retain the 3 by 10 inch rectangular rigid 
duct work to the outside.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Geoff Eden 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] current project

  I think many people use reducer's and hope for the best. However, the 
distance you're running may be a problem with precipitating grease on the walls 
of the duct work, an obvious fire hazard. You might want to consider wrapping 
the duct with insulation in order that the tube itself rises to a temperature 
close to the air that's passing through it in order to mitigate precipitation 
of moisture in Greece. Just a thought!

  Geoff
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ron Yearns 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:45 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] current project

  Well since the wife and I had finished our first upholstery job in 
  Independence I was ready for a home job instead of working for someone else. 
  I had been talking about venting the range hood. A very old greasy non 
  ducted thing over the gas cooktop. I had previously bought some three inch 
  duct and a elbow. I wanted to vent it through the back into a basement 
  stairway void. Thinking I could cut a hole in the attic and reach 
  everything from there. Well the more I touched the old hood and measured I 
  became convinced a new hood would be a lot cleaner to handle. I had 
  expected to clean the old one, but without the help of a steam cleaner which 
  would probably removed the paint also I knew it would never come really 
  clean.. We priced some at Lowes one night. One suited us, wife. But all 
  referred to venting through the top. I did not want to steal any cabinet 
  space knowing a completele stairway void was behind it. A couple of days 
  latter at Home Depot we found one to our liking, . It said it vented 7 
  inches up or three by 10 to the back or side. Purchased siad item. By the 
  way, what ever happened to the Twenty nine ninety five hoods? I also 
  purchased a dryer set of louvers for the outside and a reducer from three 
  inch to four. Well a coupple a days latter the instruction and the size of 
  the fan blade sunk in. I needed about 30 square inches for this thing to 
  operate good. Remember pi r squared for a seven inch round or thre times 
  ten. Well forget the three inch. Although I notice the non ducted option 
  out the frount of the hood is only about two by three inches. Any to make a 
  long story shorter I decided to run four inch. Back to Home Depot to pick 
  up a four inch hole saw and some four inch ducting.. I knew this would be 
  smaller than recommended but way larger than the ductless space. Anyway 
  after cutting the hole in the attic I saw i could neither reach down to the 
  range hood hole or out to the esterior wall. So I was able to reach the 
  exterior with a drill and was able to fish a piec of wire into the hood 
  hole. So now with way too many trips into the attic I have the pulled from 
  hole to hole and the louvers fastened to the duct with the worm clamp and 
  pushed into the exterior hole. Long day, I quit. Latter I can fasten the 
  louvers to the siding and caulk. I need to make another attic run and 
  install some hanger to support the ducting so it doesn't droop in the 
  horizontal run of around six feet. Anyway I think the hard work is done.
  Ron 

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