A couple of times a year they make us do fire training education as part of our 
mandatory education. Well the courses are a couple of times a year, we are 
expected to do it annually. They use up half a dozen extinguishers each session 
with staff to give them a feel for it. The trick though is to shoot for the 
base of the fire. I found the best way was to deliberately aim a little short 
then sweep toward it fairly quickly until you hear the fire change sound, that 
tells you that you are not only on it but where you need to be on it.

I think they use fuel oil in a pan and reignite it for subsequent users.

I remember flooding a rink at school with one of those canvas hoses and the big 
brass nozzles. On skates you can jet yourself around really quite fast. We 
would hang the hose to dry between uses but eventually it developed a leak or 
two usually within about four feet of the end just strategically located to run 
a steady stream of ice cold water onto the back of your head where it would 
trickle down the back of your neck and over the plumbers smile and on down a 
leg to fill your boot.



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Fowle 
  To: blindHandyMan 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:23 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using fire extinguishers as a bat


  Hi all.
  this may be old hat to some of you experienced folks, but I found the
  following interesting.

  I'd always wanted to really try using an extinguisher on a "real" fire. I
  wanted to have some idea if I might stand a chance of doing usefull fire
  fighting if i drop my soldering iron on a pile of paper or some such. 

  However I didn't want to set up a test without professional help just in
  case things should get out of hand.

  I found that a niece's new boy friend is a professional fire fighter. When
  I met Joe last year, almost the first thing I asked him after a little 
  introductory chatter was whether he might set up a test fire somewhere and 
  suggest an extinguisher for me to try.

  This was a year ago and I' hadn't seen Joe since.

  This thanksgiving, we went to my brother's 5 acre place in the country and
  Joe was there. I hadn't mentioned my request over the year and figured if
  he was interested, he'd bring it up. I wasn't going to ask again.

  Almost the first thing i heard was " Tom I've got an extinguisher for you."

  So, Friday afternoon, we went out to the middle of a gravel coverred area
  and Joe got hold of an old cardboard box and a heap of waiste paper. He
  really wanted to add a mix of gasoline and diesel, but everyone else thought
  that was going a bit far.

  He had an out of date "dry chemical" extinguisher, the type with a pair of
  handles you squeeze together and a 1 foot hose you aim at the fire.

  After the fire was going well enough I could readilly feel it from a few
  feet away, I held the extinguisher in my left hand, and followed his
  instructions.

  they suggest a memory trick using "PASS"
  Pull, Aim, Squeeze Sweep.

  Pull, means pull the safety pin, a rod with a circular ring at one end that
  goes through the top handle of the extinguisher and keeps it from being
  squeezed down when not in use.

  Aim, of course means take the end of the little hose and aim it at the base
  of the fire.

  Squeeze, press the two handles together.

  Sweep, means sweep the stream of chemical back and forth across the fire.

  My experience suggests that moving in a flattened oval so the stream moves
  "up and down" a bit as well as across where you think the fire is, may be a
  good bet if you can't see the flames at all.

  Not surprisingly, I had little trouble knocking this relatively minor fire
  down. Joe had me stop firing several times while he stirred up the fire
  again to give me several tries.

  I did have the tendency to knock over the box with the stream of chemical,
  but this would probably not happen in a more real world situation. One might
  think about whether you might blow burning material away and spread a fire
  with a strong stream of stuff. This would further encourage me to believe
  in the vertical oval movement strategy.

  In a real fire situation, you don't stop spraying your extinguisher's
  contents till the thing is empty. Even if you're pretty sure the fire is
  out, the policy is to empty the device just to be sure.

  Of course any test like this can't be totally real,, it was controlled and I
  knew what was going to be burned and where. And, of course I wasn't in a
  panic. However I believe I at least found i may be able to knock down a
  fire to the extent that I should consider trying an extinguisher if one is
  available.

  Of course there a lot of other strategies to fire fighting depending on
  what's burning, E.G. if it's a grease fire in a pan, just putting a lid on
  the pan may be enough to do the job. 

  |Dryy chemical extinguishers are good for most fires, the disadvantage of
  these types is that they leave a powdery mess over everything.

  [CO2 carbondioxide extinguishers are good for most fires but of course
  do realease a quantity of co2 into the atmosphere. I don't know of other
  disadvantages of this type.

  There are pressurized water units but they should never be used on
  electrical, grease or flamable liquid fires, so probably aren't a good bet.

  Hailon is expensive, as are it's new substitutes, and are good for almost
  all fires, but one must be carefull to get out of the way of the cloud of
  gas since it makes breathing impossible.

  I'd suggest, if you work with anything that might go wrong and cause a fire,
  that you may want to meet a friendly fireman and set up a similar test for
  your selves just so you'll have a feel for how it all goes.

  Everyone with a home containing a kitchen should have, and maintain, an
  appropriate extinguisher where you can get at it. Contact your local fire
  fighters to find out what local code says is appropriate for you.

  Of course if you have a fire, whether you try fighting it your self or not,
  call the local fire department. Even if you think it's out, you want
  professional help to be sure there is no way it could spread and something
  you didn't catch is still going.

  Hope this encourages you to try something for your selves and learn more
  about what you can do.

  Besides, since I had a pro on hand, it was fun and helped build a good
  connection with a possible future family member.

  tom Fowle


   

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