Hi Betsy, my apologies for my ignorance of the area, I did not know that there
are such high lying areas there, and that the temperature go down so lo. I
suppose I am used to our sunny climate, today being winter and a nice 19 or 20c
66 or 68f, although I only use a ordinary water heater I am only one person in
this house.
Philip Theron
Piano tuner
Piano Music House
Tel.: [021] 948 6995
Cell: [083] 635 6349
Fax: [021] 949 8650
Email: [email protected]
www.pianomusichouse.co.za
----- Original Message -----
From: Betsy Whitney
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Tankless Water Heater
Aloha Philip,
Yes, that was my first thing that we researched. I live in a very
rainy part of the islands. They tell me that I'm in Zone 5, and that
solar probably wouldn't be good for us.
I was amazed, but we do have a lot of cloudy days, and i live at
fifteen hundred feet, so during the Winter, it actually gets down
into the low fifties occasionally.
At 10:32 PM 7/24/2009, you wrote:
>
>
>Hi Betsy have you ever considered a solar panel, if I am not
>mistaken in your part of the world their is a lot of sunlight, so if
>you are putting a ordinary electric water heater with a big enough
>tank in, with a solar panel, it would save quite a lot of energy.
>Philip Theron
>Piano tuner
>Piano Music House
>Tel.: [021] 948 6995
>Cell: [083] 635 6349
>Fax: [021] 949 8650
>Email: <mailto:philip%40isales.co.za>[email protected]
>www.pianomusichouse.co.za
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Betsy Whitney
>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected]
>Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 10:16 AM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Tankless Water Heater
>
>Aloha Scott,
>I still don't have mine installed, but I hav several friends who have
>switched from propane to electric here. Of course, in Hawaii the
>water isn't as cold to begin with as it can be other places. My
>propane costs about $1,200 a year just to operate the 30 gallon water
>heater, and friends tell me that they pay about $20 to $25 per month
>for the electricity for the water heater. My current propane heater
>is in the house with a blanket on it.
>
>My new electric unit isn't installed because I need to find someone
>to run the #6 wire. We bought a Stiebel Eltron and paid $600 and will
>heat 4-1/2 gallons a minute.
>Betsy
>
>At 12:23 AM 7/24/2009, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >You got that right, but looking into the electric model of the
> >tankless water heater, I learned it requires a great deal of wiring
> >work. From what I have gathered, most if not all use a six-wire setup
> >and I believe it is 3 220 breakers. I may be wrong, but I believe they
> >can pull down about 40 or more amps during operation. Man, that would
> >be a pile of power for sure and maybe the best option is really to put
> >a blanket on the tank. I don't know, but I could justify the cost if I
> >could find evidence that it would really save me money and that
> >savings could be realized within the first year or so of ownership. Of
> >course with 3 of us and not being the family that takes long showers,
> >we don't use as much water and we never have run the tank out of hot
> >water.
> >On Jul 23, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Michael baldwin wrote:
> >
> > > Gas or LP models save more then electric models, anytime you use
> > > electric
> > > for resistance heating, it costs a fortune. Figure out what size you
> > > will
> > > need, then price it out. Tankless do not heat the water to a set
> > > temp, i.e.
> > > 120 degrees F, it increases the water temp by a certain amount, i.e.
> > > increases by 60 degrees at 4.5 gpm, so if your income water is
> > > colder in the
> > > winter, your hot water will be colder. It is hard to know if you
> > > will save.
> > > If you have a teenage daughter, or a wife, that gets out when the
> > > hot water
> > > runs out, their shower time can really increase, using more hot
> > > water, and
> > > more water in general.
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > From:
> >
>
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> >
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> > > On Behalf Of Tom Hodges
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:42 PM
> > > To:
>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected]
> > > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Tankless Water Heater
> > >
> > > My water heater is about to quit on me after about fifteen years of
> > > service
> > > and I'm considering converting to a tankless water heater. I am
> > > considering
> > > going to tankless because I've heard there could be considerable
> > > savings in
> > > the long run.
> > >
> > > Does anyone on here have any experience with tankless water heaters
> > > or would
> > > anyone have a recommendation for a particular brand. On the other
> > > hand,
> > > would anyone recommend that I not go this route, and stick with the
> > > tank
> > > heater, due to a bad experience with the tankless type.
> > >
> > > Any help on this subject would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Regards, Tom Hodges
> > >
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