I convinced my wife that we really needed to get ventless logs for the 
fireplace rather than monkey around with wood, so I just bought a couple combo 
detecters as well, though mine are not networked in any way.  I also did some 
research into the relative weights, and the only thing I found that is 
different from what Dan has so well explained is that apparently mixing can be 
affected by air temperature.  I suspect though that it would have to be pretty 
cold in a house before this would be a factor.  Apparently, at least according 
to the manual, mine are also supposed to scream at you when the batteries are 
low, so we'll see.  

Bill Stephan 
Kansas Citty MO 
Email: [email protected] 
Phone: (816)803-2469


----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Rossi <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:37 pm
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.
> So, I just got some battery operated, wirelessly inter connected, 
> voice announcing, smoke or smoke and Carbon Monoxide detectors. 
> 
> I got one combination smoke and C O detector, and two smoke 
> detectors. 
> The combo unit will go in the basement, and then one smoke 
> detector on the 
> main floor, and one in the hallway on the second floor. 
> 
> You program each one for the location it is in, and then if any 
> one of 
> them go off, all of them go off and tell you what the danger is, 
> and where 
> it is.  IE, if the unit in the basement activates because of a 
> carbon 
> monoxide issue,, and it is late at night and we are snug in our 
> beds on 
> the second floor, all of the units, will alarm, then say, 
> "EVACUATE! 
> CARBON MONOXIDE IN THE BASEMENT!" 
> 
> Since these are battery operated, and wireless, there are no wires 
> to 
> run.  Makes it quite easy to install.  Just hang them on the 
> ceiling and 
> you are good to go. 
> 
> Before anyone starts raising your hand and saying that Carbon 
> Monoxide is 
> heavier than air and thus the detectors should be near the floor, 
> you are 
> mistaken.  I've done a lot of research on this.  There are many 
> web sites 
> that make this invalid claim.  But the real science is more 
> convincing. 
> Air is made of Nitrogen, N2, with an molecular mass of 28.  And 
> Oxygen, 
> O2, with an molecular mass of 32.  Carbon Monoxide is made of a 
> Carbon 
> atom, atomic mass 12, and one Oxygen, atomic mass 16, giving it an 
> molecular mass of 28, equal to N2, and lighter than Oxygen.  Add 
> to that, 
> the fact that C O is going to be a product of combustion, IE, it 
> will be 
> warm and thus convect upward, and you get quite a good mix of the 
> air and C O. 
> 
> Some manufacturers say to put the Co detector on the wall at eye 
> level, 
> but that is more for the fact that many CO detectors have visual 
> displays 
> showing the Parts Per Million of CO in the air, and thus it makes 
> more 
> sense to put it somewhere where it is more easily seen on a 
> regular basis. 
> 
> I thought these were worth mentioning.  They're not that cheap, 
> the combo 
> unit was 70 bucks, and the two pack of smoke detectors was 90 I 
> think.  I 
> got the combo direct from amazon, but the smoke detector twin pack 
> came 
> from EAccess via amazon. 
> 
> -- 
> Blue skies. 
> Dan Rossi 
> Carnegie Mellon University. 
> E-Mail: [email protected] 
> Tel: (412) 268-9081 
> 

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