You are correct.

What I meant was boil. At minus 43C or there abouts it remains a liquid so 
can't be burned in a propane modified engine. In cold weather use they add 
pre-heaters but mostly they don't work well until the engine is running hot so 
many keep the gasoline and carburetor so they can switch over when necessary. 
There are also places where you can't buy propane for automobiles or where it 
is hard to find a supplier so keeping the gasoline equipment provides that 
better versatility.


If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael baldwin 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:53 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.


    
  Dale,
  Not to be picky, but propane freezes at -310F, -190C
  boils at -44F, -42C.

  Michael


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  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
  On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 6:51 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

  Propane freezes at something under 40 below. It is a problem for our propane
  powered automobiles and many keep the gasoline operation and tanks for those
  situations when the propane won't flow. Some also use heat to keep it
  flowing once the air flow of vehicle movement adds to the cooling.

  The decompressing gas acts like a refrigerant just as happens when gas is
  compressed then allowed to decompress in a fridge or air conditioning
  device.

  If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 7:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

  If you get a tank for heating, it has to be I seem to remember anyway, at
  least 10 feet from the house.

  Propane won't freeze unless it's exposed to oxygen and then it will frost
  the opening closed. When exposed to oxygen, it is way below zero. I've never
  looked it up but it's cold. 

  The guy that drove the delivery tanker for the company I worked for was
  attacked by 2 big dogs once and he gave one of the dogs a little blast of
  propane on the nose. That was more than enough to run the dog off. 

  The knock against propane is the explosiveness of it. And there is no
  arguing that point. The problem is, carelessness and ignorance of people
  mixing with the explosiveness of propane and then you really have a problem.

  Hey here's something probably only you can appreciate.

  A guy was getting ready to make his first solo sky dive. As he went out of
  the plane, he suddenly forgot everything he had learned. As his speed
  increased on the way down he kept fumbling around for the rip cord. When he
  looked down, he saw a guy coming up at him from the ground. He yelled to the
  guy :Hey! Know anything about parachutes?" 

  As the guy went past him he yelled "No! Know anything about gas grills?" 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

  HMM, you learn something every day. I didn't think propane would be a 
  good heating source for a hole house. Everywhere I've lived, you either 
  heated with natural gas or fuel oil.

  So, when you heat with propane, are the tanks inside the house? I mean, 
  doesn't propane have issues if it gets too cold? I mean, doesn't it start 
  to have problems vaporizing?

  Anyway, here are the make and models of my alarms.

  First Alert SCO501CN-3ST ONELINK Battery Operated Combination
  Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm with Voice Location $69
  First Alert SA511CN2-3ST ONELINK Wireless Battery Operated Smoke
  Alarm with Voice Location, 2-Pack $89

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew. <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081

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