Mak3es sense Dan, Thanks for the explanation.  

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
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Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 21:37
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Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Re: Propane gas.

 

  

Bill,

You get condensation on the tank for the same reason that you get 
condensation on the outside of a glass of iced tea during the summer. As 
the tank empties it is chilling down because of the vaporization of the 
propane from a liquid to a gas. This chills the surface of the tank, then 
the warm, moist air that is in contact with the outside of the tank cools 
and drops below the dew point and you get condensation.

In summer or winter, if you release the gas fast enough, you can get icing 
on the surface of the tank. As long as the surface of the tank gets below
freezing, the condensation will freeze on the surface. In winter, the 
surface of the tank may already be pretty cold, so it won't take much to 
drop it below freezing.

Along all these lines, I have a couple of different types of stoves for 
camping and backpacking. One uses white gas, actually it will burn a 
number of fuels but I usually use white gas. Anyway, that one you have to 
pump it to keep it pressurized. The fuel flows through a loop of tube 
that is actually in the flame, that vaporizes the fuel so that it burns 
like a vapor, much hotter than the liquid fuel. You have to prime it by 
burning liquid first. I like that stove for winter camping because it 
works quite well even in cold temperatures.

I have a canister stove which is simply a burner on top of a sealed 
canister of a mixture of isobutane and propane. Damn light and works 
great, but sucks in the winter. I actually had the condensation freeze 
the canister to the rock I had it sitting on. As the canister, and the 
fuel within, gets colder, the flame burns cooler, and it takes forever to 
boil your water.

I eventually learned a slick trick. You heat up a bit of water, not to 
boiling, but pretty warm, then sit the canister in that warm water, and it 
is amazing how the flame takes off.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew. <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> cmu.edu
Tel: (412) 268-9081





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